How many losses would Floyd have if he fought Margarito/Williams/Sergio/Pac?

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  • Showtime..
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    #21
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Prime Floyd doesnt hardly get hit , thats the diamond in his crown his defense is possibly and arguably the best ever , doesnt matter the comp they dont hardly land a thing , its only the last few yrs he is slowing enough where he is taking some good shots , and like Ali he is proving to have a great chin .

    Prime Floyd is not in a war with anybody its a chess match .
    Prime Floyd doesn't get touched? Oscar & Judah touched him up a bunch.

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    • Reloaded
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      #22
      Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
      Prime Floyd doesn't get touched? Oscar & Judah touched him up a bunch.
      A bunch lol , care to look at the stats , I said hardly not doesnt .

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      • Suckmedry
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        #23
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        You ever seen Floyd slow down tired he is one of the best conditioned athletes of all time , how many times have we seen him as fresh in the last as he was in the first , a slow plodding come forward fighter like Margarito would get absolutely picked apart , the Margarito that Manny beat in a 26 ft ring would be a 12 round whitewash for Floyd as well .
        Correct but thats when he's doing things at his own pace and dictating it. We never saw him dealing with a big WW like Margarito coming down on him late in a fight.


        Floyd of 06-07? yeah he probably does survive the full 12, his legs were impeccable back then and he would have probably been able to cruise on points vs the slower margarito.

        Floyd of today? I think he gets forced to fight up close in spots and that costs him.

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        • brown_knight06
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          #24
          Castillo touched him up really well too. There is a reason why he avoided these fights. Go rewatch their fights again.

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          • Foreign Soil
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            #25
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Margarito would not have laid a glove on him .
            Maybe not a glove, but reinforced plaster. Imagine how badly Floyd would've done against plaster hands when he fears and outlaws MX style gloves of any fashion. Plaster is the original MX glove.

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              #26
              Originally posted by hectari
              If he fought these guys at their prime when they were savages, he would probably have 4 losses. Margarito would eat Floyd a live, and Floyd hands will break the pressure will bust pipes no way in hell would Floyd be able to keep Margo off him. P will, Sergio and Pac are all southpaws with difficult styles and punching angles.

              If slow ass Maidana was able to land shots and he wasn't even a hard pressure fighter with a gas tank like Margarito or P will, what would Margarito or P will do to Floyd they had height on Floyd, they had chins, and stamina for days with punches in bunches from all angles and never took a backward step

              P will height and work rate alone he would pummel Floyd he is 6 foot 3 and Floyd would finally face someone with height and REACH advantage over him, not a T rex armed 6 foot tall Corrales who Floyd had reach on even though he was shorter.

              Sergio awkward and moved a lot and had power fights off back foot too.

              Pacquiao would be Floyds best bet to win, but the Pac that beat Cotto would have a great chance to beat him, angles, he had stamina and work rate and still had his impressive awkward fast legs.

              I could see his uncle or father throwing a chair in the ring to get a DQ instead of having his son take a hard L or get knocked out.

              He already said if Pac wobbled his son he will stop the fight and demand Pac take drug test in the ring on the spot.
              But of course! What an idiot! The question should have been, Who would win, prime for prime?

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              • sunny31
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                #27
                I think Paul Williams would be seriously tough for Floyd, especially at 154. Williams was a little inconsistent but I think at his best he presents a hugely difficult fight for Floyd. A big, tall, long, fast southpaw with a huge workrate and good skills/power. I think this is a 50/50 fight, Williams was fairly easy to hit, but Floyd would have to constantly be precise and take risks to hit him because of the size difference. Not sure who I would pick in this one, I think with the right game plan and preparation I like Williams, with most fighters a lot of what they do well doesn't work against Floyd, but in this case I think it's the opposite, a lot of what Floyd does well (pull counters, lead left hook) won't work against Williams, not to say he can't find a home for his right hand, we have seen Williams get outboxed by Quintana, Martinez, and Lara in spurts, but those guys were all southpaws, and in fairness Williams stopped Quintana in the rematch.

                Margarito - another tough physically damaging fight for Floyd, Margarito had an underrated jab, good reach, and again an unbelievable workrate. He doesn't care where he hits you. I do actually see Floyd by UD here - his ability to stand still and avoid punishment will see him through by wide decision in my opinion. Floyd will go through some rough spots in the fight and survive the occasional onslaught, his stamina will be tested late on, but I think Floyd and Manny have proved that their stamina is on another level to everyone else. They are 15 round fighters.

                Martinez - at his best, another 50-50 for me. Martinez has a substantial size advantage but fights like a small fighter thus giving Floyd a great chance to pull off what in most peoples eyes would have been a bit of an upset at 160. I would actually have this as 60-40 in Floyd's direction. I think Martinez has the speed and power to take him out though and he has that potential game changer for the full 12 rounds. I think this is a fight Floyd should have taken for legacy, it was winnable. Just like SRL knew the Hagler fight was winnable, Floyd could have put himself on another level.

                Pacquiao - a better fighter than all of the above without the physical presence, I think in 09 it's a 50/50 pre pacquiao-Margarito.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                  LOL if he fought them all today? Yeah he beats them all.

                  But seriously, every guy you listed lost to a less talented fighter than Floyd and all in very cut and clear ways. Williams and Pac were both brutally ko'd, and both have been outboxed over twelve rounds by guys who were nowhere near Floyd's skill level.

                  I think a prime Sergio is a challenge but thats all.
                  This right here is the reason I said what I said on the first page.

                  And he will not be the only one, there will be lots of them. This is the reason why he ducks them all, because nobody can say for certain they can beat him or he can beat them it can not be proved 100%.

                  Floyd is holding on for dear life with that zero because as long as he has that, johnwoo and the rest of the pack will make sure that Floyd beats all those that he ducked.

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                  • Pugilist95
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                    #29
                    People really need to go back and watch Floyd from the 06/07 time period and compare that version to him to the current version. He had way better defence, faster feet, better reflexes and faster hands back then.

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                      #30
                      Sergio was likely too big for him. (Yea I know Cotto beat him but Sergio was shot and injured)

                      Pac I'm 50/50 about.

                      Williams I'm not sure. That would have been one hell of an interesting fight.

                      Margarito he would have beaten via decision and the Mexicans would be screaming robbery until the human race is wiped out. Shame that fight didn't happen, the crying from the Marg fan club would be priceless

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