How many losses would Floyd have if he fought Margarito/Williams/Sergio/Pac?

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  • $Bullsfam$
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    #11
    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
    LOL if he fought them all today? Yeah he beats them all.

    But seriously, every guy you listed lost to a less talented fighter than Floyd and all in very cut and clear ways. Williams and Pac were both brutally ko'd, and both have been outboxed over twelve rounds by guys who were nowhere near Floyd's skill level.

    I think a prime Sergio is a challenge but thats all.
    Styles make fights. Marquez poses different problems for Manny then Floyd and vice versa. Marquez counter punches but he still ****s to keep you honest. Floyd doesn't **** at all so I don't think he'd get any respect from Manny and would get outhustled by the speed of Mannys Volume.

    Paul Williams would be difficult but Floyd COULD beat him. Same with Margarito and Sergio. I think they are all 50/50 fights besides Manny who I think would always have Floyd's number because Floyd has never fought somebody as fast as Manny who brings that much volume with angles.

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      #12
      real answer would be like 8, he will try to rematch all of them.

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      • hectari
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        #13
        If he fought these guys at their prime when they were savages, he would probably have 4 losses. Margarito would eat Floyd a live, and Floyd hands will break the pressure will bust pipes no way in hell would Floyd be able to keep Margo off him. P will, Sergio and Pac are all southpaws with difficult styles and punching angles.

        If slow ass Maidana was able to land shots and he wasn't even a hard pressure fighter with a gas tank like Margarito or P will, what would Margarito or P will do to Floyd they had height on Floyd, they had chins, and stamina for days with punches in bunches from all angles and never took a backward step

        P will height and work rate alone he would pummel Floyd he is 6 foot 3 and Floyd would finally face someone with height and REACH advantage over him, not a T rex armed 6 foot tall Corrales who Floyd had reach on even though he was shorter.

        Sergio awkward and moved a lot and had power fights off back foot too.

        Pacquiao would be Floyds best bet to win, but the Pac that beat Cotto would have a great chance to beat him, angles, he had stamina and work rate and still had his impressive awkward fast legs.

        I could see his uncle or father throwing a chair in the ring to get a DQ instead of having his son take a hard L or get knocked out.

        He already said if Pac wobbled his son he will stop the fight and demand Pac take drug test in the ring on the spot.

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          #14
          Originally posted by $BloodyNate$
          Styles make fights. Marquez poses different problems for Manny then Floyd and vice versa. Marquez counter punches but he still ****s to keep you honest. Floyd doesn't **** at all so I don't think he'd get any respect from Manny and would get outhustled by the speed of Mannys Volume.

          Paul Williams would be difficult but Floyd COULD beat him. Same with Margarito and Sergio. I think they are all 50/50 fights besides Manny who I think would always have Floyd's number because Floyd has never fought somebody as fast as Manny who brings that much volume with angles.
          I think Floyd beats them all and Pacs volume AWAYS decreases whenever he faces a fighter who implements even the least bit of movement. So Floyd wouldn't have to be concerned too much with volume.

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            Styles make fights, and I think Margarito and Williams would be terrible matchups for Floyd, especially Margarito. Margarito would walk through every single one of Mayweather's punches, and use his height, reach, and power to give Mayweather a beating. Mayweather doesn't have the power to keep Margarito honest, and while he can use his feet, Margarito's relentlessness would allow him to be on top of Floyd for most of the fight. At his prime he was basically a bigger, stronger Maidana with a granite chin.

            I don't mean that as a slight towards Floyd, but styles make fights. I am huge Duran fan, but also I have a firm belief that he would always lose to Thomas Hearns and most of the times by knockout. Truth is that it doesn't matter, people will keep speculating, but the only person who could have given us the answers decided not to take the risks.

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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum
              only 1 margarito would have beaten him to death
              Margarito would not have laid a glove on him .

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                #17
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Its not just the losses but they would have each taken a piece out of Floyd. Floyd would not be Floyd after each fight and it would have affected him in the long run. Instead, he went on a vacation while the rest of them all beat each other up or taken less risky opponents.

                Also, from those fights, one would have seen the blue print on how to beat Floyd.
                This is a wonderful point that so few posters get. I often tell Wladimir fans that he would not have survived the 90's. They than talk about how Wlad matches up well against everybody outside of Lennox. But it's not about that. It's about the cumulative damage he would have taken going through a gauntlet of fighters like Morrison/Ruddock/Bruno/Tucker/PRIME Mercer before even getting to Bowe/Holyfield/Lewis. It all adds up. This is why resume is so important.


                How much longer would Ali have lasted if he avoided the damage he took from Frazier?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Margarito would not have laid a glove on him .
                  For the first 8 rounds maybe. Margarito kept coming as the fight went on, how would floyd go over the full 12? would there not be a moment where he traps floyd and lets his hands go?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JasonBoxing
                    This is a wonderful point that so few posters get. I often tell Wladimir fans that he would not have survived the 90's. They than talk about how Wlad matches up well against everybody outside of Lennox. But it's not about that. It's about the cumulative damage he would have taken going through a gauntlet of fighters like Morrison/Ruddock/Bruno/Tucker/PRIME Mercer before even getting to Bowe/Holyfield/Lewis. It all adds up. This is why resume is so important.


                    How much longer would Ali have lasted if he avoided the damage he took from Frazier?
                    Prime Floyd doesnt hardly get hit , thats the diamond in his crown his defense is possibly and arguably the best ever , doesnt matter the comp they dont hardly land a thing , its only the last few yrs he is slowing enough where he is taking some good shots , and like Ali he is proving to have a great chin .

                    Prime Floyd is not in a war with anybody its a chess match .

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by One more round
                      For the first 8 rounds maybe. Margarito kept coming as the fight went on, how would floyd go over the full 12? would there not be a moment where he traps floyd and lets his hands go?
                      You ever seen Floyd slow down tired he is one of the best conditioned athletes of all time , how many times have we seen him as fresh in the last as he was in the first , a slow plodding come forward fighter like Margarito would get absolutely picked apart , the Margarito that Manny beat in a 26 ft ring would be a 12 round whitewash for Floyd as well .

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