He would have done well vs floyd Patterson .. The others mentioned would be too much IMO
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Originally posted by jas View Posti give him a good shot to win by decision vs all of those guys
honestly
but he could lose
its hard to say
with ali he would have faced a guy with as fast as hands as he had but not faster feet. the thing is with ali vs jones, if jones made ali fight on the front foot, it would play against the way ali liked the fight
either way, i dont see any of the fights being action packed
joe louis could be outboxed but obviously at heavyweight jones is not going to be as quick and athletic . if he got caught by a joe louis right hand it could be curtains
roy would fight it surprisingly difficult to catch frazier. joe had an underrated defence but he was suspectible for an uppercut. roys fav punch was the left hook, never rly seen him utilise the uppercut, i think joe mows down roy to the point that roy doesnt take enough risks to win the fight
Hahahha. Ali would murder Jones. Is that a joke. Ali was 6'3 and 215-220.
His handspeed is also only slightly slower than a 168 pound Jones.
Think about this. Watch Ali in his prime. He was only slightly slower than Jones in terms of handspeed. Difference is Ali weight around 40 pounds more.
Now HW Version of Jones? Ali was faster than the version who fought Ruiz. Ali would kill Jones rofl. Damn this is absurdity.
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Originally posted by jas View PostAli didn't like to fight on the front foot especially later on in his career
But the only version of Ali Jones can beat is the version who got schooled by Holmes/Berbick.
How do you see Prime Lennox vs Roy Jones going?
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Not good, Roy got KO'd by Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson at 175, he would have got knocked by any power punchers.
Joe Frazier would have mopped the floor with Roy.
Rocky Marciano would have won by KO at some point, esp. over 15 rounds.
Roy was great but not a heavyweight, no way his chin would hold up to a good heavyweight. Ruiz is considered one of the worst heavyweight champ ever.
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Originally posted by 80sFighter View PostOf all the old heavies Frazier would be my last pick to be Roy. Slow, predictable, the definition of flat footed, not much bigger unless you count chub.
"Rugged" but that doesn't mean much when you get his with stuff you never see coming. Roy dodging deliberate looping hooks and making Joe look stupid.
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Well, I would have to imagine that HW Roy would have totally clowned and very quickly knocked out any and all of the smaller heavies from the past (taking that to mean pre-80's, "pre-professional" times).
Of course once we get to a guy like Mike Tyson, who is not exactly small at all really, then obviously Roy is beat.
A Chris Byrd or Eddie Chambers match with Roy would have been interesting.
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Originally posted by JasonBoxing View PostHow is this relevant? It's PRIME Ali vs HW Version of Jones. That was the question.
But the only version of Ali Jones can beat is the version who got schooled by Holmes/Berbick.
How do you see Prime Lennox vs Roy Jones going?
The so called "prime" Ali could never beat Roy Jones under any circumstances! He doesn't have the experience or the tools to beat or upset him.
Prime Ali lost a fight to bloody DOUG Jones for Christ sake! Got almost KOed by Cooper and couldn't even avoid getting bashed up by guys like Chuvalo, Liston (possibly the slowest HW ever) and Mildenberger etc. How you can think a young Ali beats HW Roy is incredible!
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Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostDisagree.
The so called "prime" Ali could never beat Roy Jones under any circumstances! He doesn't have the experience or the tools to beat or upset him.
Prime Ali lost a fight to bloody DOUG Jones for Christ sake! Got almost KOed by Cooper and couldn't even avoid getting bashed up by guys like Chuvalo, Liston (possibly the slowest HW ever) and Mildenberger etc. How you can think a young Ali beats HW Roy is incredible!
Just stop spewing lies bro its not cool.
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Originally posted by LarryXXX View PostJack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Post and discuss
I'll bite, he gets stopped by all of them, he might have a chance against Patterson who was legitimately small and Marciano who was slow and more of a cruiser but I think Rocky would catch him and Jones gets stopped.
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