Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Arum 'Not Truthful' on Mayweather Talks

[Flash13]

He didnt back Arizas comments about May 2 opponent , he backed Ariza blaming Arum which was the whole gist of what Ariza was saying , with the words thanks for clearing that up .

Your comprehension is terrible and you hold a word as being accountable for an entire drawn out diatribe .

Dude if floyd backs a video, it's everything in there. Where did you become the judge to know exactly what floyd was saying. LOL hahahaha this is over the top, c'mon reloaded.....

[Aristocrat]

Dude if floyd backs a video, it's everything in there. Where did you become the judge to know exactly what floyd was saying. LOL hahahaha this is over the top, c'mon reloaded.....

LOL this

[KillerJones]

Lol. I nearly spit out my Jack and Ginger. Couldn't have said it any better. Kids.

I'm confused. Are you saying Pacquiao is lying when he says he signed the contract and is now waiting on Floyd? Are you saying Pacquiao made it all up out of thin air? Yes, or no.

It's very simple. Seems like you are needlessly complicating this, you are racking your brain to find someway to make Floyd not look like the liar anyone with a brain knows he is.

[FloydvsPac]

Wouldnt it be easier for Arum to produce a contract signed by Manny , it only takes a photocopier and a signed contract , Arum sounds too much like Oscar and the Canelo is signed off on everything routine , which was all lies .

He doesn't need to produce copies unless the fight never happens and someone of real merit claims he is lying. Publicizing business documents is unprofessional. That's only done when all hope in doing business with one party is lost and there is a legal case.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Espinoza is an EVP who runs sports. Safe to say he had to interview with the CEO. So you think Moonves is an idiot who hired a Haymon stooge and lets him lie using his name.

Espinoza's boss (Moonves) is directly involved in negotiations. Moonves has been working closely on this deal for months now and clearly wants this deal done. You think Espinoza's going to step over his boss, one of the most powerful people in America, to protect Mayweather's neck at the risk that he gets himself canned?

Its plausible but still a huge stretch. If he's messing around with Moonves he's not only going to get fired he could also be looking at getting sued.

[FloydvsPac]

Wouldn't be the first time in recent History where a Haymon operative destroyed an organization from within. See: Schaefer, Richard.

But again, my post was in response to you claiming there was only 1 other negotiation besides the present one. That was pure nonsense. Greenburg, who at the time had both Floyd and Manny under contract, made it clear Floyd ducked the fight for no conceivable reason to go on 'vacation'. Worst yet, his representatives outright lied to the media about it.

This is just History repeating itself. With Canelo poaching his date, don't be surprised to see Floyd taking much needed time off to slap the hell out of female family members/strippers/etc instead of fighting this Spring.

Floyd fans don't wanna read this, bro! lol

[ThePrince]

Espinoza's boss (Moonves) is directly involved in negotiations. Moonves has been working closely on this deal for months now and clearly wants this deal done. You think Espinoza's going to step over his boss, one of the most powerful people in America, to protect Mayweather's neck at the risk that he gets himself canned?

That's such a huge stretch. If he's messing around with Moonves he's not only going to get fired he could also be looking at getting sued

Yeah, can't conceive of anything like that ever happening.

Oh wait...

[KillerJones]

Espinoza's boss (Moonves) is directly involved in negotiations. Moonves has been working closely on this deal for months now and clearly wants this deal done. You think Espinoza's going to step over his boss, one of the most powerful people in America, to protect Mayweather's neck at the risk that he gets himself canned?

That's such a huge stretch. If he's messing around with Moonves he's not only going to get fired he could also be looking at getting sued

How is Espinoza stepping over his boss? Espinoza's job is to make the fight happen. And that means he has to keep Floyd happy, and he is doing that by engaging in damage control on Floyds behalf. It's pretty blatant.

Arum is the one who has been negotiating this alongside with Moonves. Arum is the one that would look like a fool to make these claims, and would anger Moonves. If they were still negotiating, Arums actions would ruin the fight. Since negotiations are over, nothing Espinoza has said makes any difference.

You keep conveniently ignoring Pacquiao is the first person that said he has met all his demands, and that he has signed the contract, and is waiting on Floyd. So Pacquiao is a shameless liar now? No, he has never done this. If they were still negotiating Manny would never claim they weren't. The fact you keep ignoring this part means even you realise this about Pacquiao.

Espinozas job requires him to lie. You honestly think Floyd would agree to the fight, without requiring some damage control? You think he's going to let it stand as, " Floyd didn't want the fight, but got pressured into it, and finally signed the contract"?

[FloydvsPac]

Espinoza's boss (Moonves) is directly involved in negotiations. Moonves has been working closely on this deal for months now and clearly wants this deal done. You think Espinoza's going to step over his boss, one of the most powerful people in America, to protect Mayweather's neck at the risk that he gets himself canned?

That's such a huge stretch. If he's messing around with Moonves he's not only going to get fired he could also be looking at getting sued

IF Floyd opts out of the fighting Pac on May 2nd, Espinoza AND Moonves have to protect him because he's their cash cow!! They have no choice! They have to protect their brand...Floyd Mayweather from looking like a coward.

Ross Greenberg said this back in 2010: “Both times, the fight was very close to being made,” Greenburg told Satterfield. “And, the second time around, you know, all that I can say is that you would have to ask Floyd Mayweather why the fight wasn’t made. To this day, I really don’t know why Floyd decided that he didn’t want the fight any more in the fall.”

Fast forward to Floyd leaving HBO and going to SHOWTIME. Espinoza won't make the same mistake, if Floyd decides to not fight Pac this year.

[KillerJones]

Like I said, since negotiations are over, Espinoza claiming they are still on going is not going to ruin the fight. If negotiations were actually still ongoing, and Arum was saying they are over, calling Floyd out and Floyd is refusing to sign the contract, Arum would've ruined the fight.

Since Floyd will not fight under the label of coward, obviously Floyd is going to pressure Espinoza to change the narrative, and frankly its Espinozas job to be Floyds mouthpiece, especially if means the fight will happen.

Pacquiao already confirmed the truth. He told us he signed the contract and is waiting on Floyd. No need for all this time wasting speculation these Floyd fans are doing.