Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Arum 'Not Truthful' on Mayweather Talks

[IMDAZED]

About what specifically? About floyd dying to fight pacquiao? Haha i think that's a huge lie. I mean Floyd backed Ariza's comments that he wasn't going to fight pacman on may 2nd, with a very unacceptable reason. Obviously Espinoza needs to say that, a massive boycott could be in effect. With the negotiations stuff? Idk i'm not sure, i really have no idea wtf is going on anymore. I was trying to gather some information today on that subject, but not one insider seems to know what's going on.

Ok so you think he's lying. I just wanted to confirm that if you heard anything contrary to what Arum said, you would disregard it as a lie. And when you're proven wrong about something you said (Floyd possibly hurting negotiations with bad talk), you would gloss over it too. In essence, regardless of what you're told, Floyd is wrong.

[DeadLikeMe]

Works both ways.

That is far too complicated an idea for them to comprehend. This is GI Joe vs COBRA, Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant to them. The whole idea of shades of grey is lost.

[IMDAZED]

I have no idea who hired Espinoza, but would anyone be surprised if he didn't have a job by the Summer?

And that wasn't the point at all, just pointing out that there were other official negotiations... and other instances where Floyd alone killed the fight and then his people tried to lie about it to get him off the hook in the media.

Same ruse here. Rinse and repeat.

Notice how Stevie keeps using the word 'misrepresenting'. Has anyone asked him if there are any fight terms, not counting the network distribution deal, that are still an issue? Arum has said they acquiesced to all of Floyd's demands- purse split, venue, date, drug testing protocol, even down to promotional billing and the order of entrance into the ring.

Espinoza is an EVP who runs sports. Safe to say he had to interview with the CEO. So you think Moonves is an idiot who hired a Haymon stooge and lets him lie using his name.

[IMDAZED]

That is far too complicated an idea for them to comprehend. This is GI Joe vs COBRA, Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant to them. The whole idea of shades of grey is lost.

Lol. I nearly spit out my Jack and Ginger. Couldn't have said it any better. Kids.

[Reloaded]

About what specifically? About floyd dying to fight pacquiao? Haha i think that's a huge lie. I mean Floyd backed Ariza's comments that he wasn't going to fight pacman on may 2nd, with a very unacceptable reason. Obviously Espinoza needs to say that, a massive boycott could be in effect. With the negotiations stuff? Idk i'm not sure, i really have no idea wtf is going on anymore. I was trying to gather some information today on that subject, but not one insider seems to know what's going on.

He didnt back Arizas comments about May 2 opponent , he backed Ariza blaming Arum which was the whole gist of what Ariza was saying , with the words thanks for clearing that up .

Your comprehension is terrible and you hold a word as being accountable for an entire drawn out diatribe .

[Flash13]

Notice how Stevie keeps using the word 'misrepresenting'. Has anyone asked him if there are any fight terms, not counting the network distribution deal, that are still an issue? Arum has said they acquiesced to all of Floyd's demands- purse split, venue, date, drug testing protocol, even down to promotional billing and the order of entrance into the ring.

This is EXACTLY what i wanted to know as well.

[FloydvsPac]

What CEO of a reputable public company is going to go public while high-level negotiations are still going on?

The fact that Pleper hasn't come out to even acknowledge Arum's position is damning, tbh. Everyone knows how big the fight is expected to be; if everything was done, at least HBO would be out pushing, yet they're not.

The TV negotiations are still on going. If Arum was lying about Pac and him agreeing to Floyd's terms, then Moonves and/or Plepler would squash Arum like a bug. Other than that, they don't need to speak. Just let their employees like Espinoza & Hershman do their jobs. So far NO ONE has claimed that Pacquiao and Arum did not agree to terms.

[Flash13]

Ok so you think he's lying. I just wanted to confirm that if you heard anything contrary to what Arum said, you would disregard it as a lie. And when you're proven wrong about something you said (Floyd possibly hurting negotiations with bad talk), you would gloss over it too. In essence, regardless of what you're told, Floyd is wrong.

I mean he has a HUGE REASON to lie about floyd's desire for the fight, showtime could potentially lose tens of millions of dollars if the public believes floyd is ducking. I mean HUGE MONEY... probably their whole boxing budget for 2015. As for the negotiations, there are conflicting stories, so i don't know who to believe.

[ThePrince]

Espinoza is an EVP who runs sports. Safe to say he had to interview with the CEO. So you think Moonves is an idiot who hired a Haymon stooge and lets him lie using his name.

Wouldn't be the first time in recent History where a Haymon operative destroyed an organization from within. See: Schaefer, Richard.

But again, my post was in response to you claiming there was only 1 other negotiation besides the present one. That was pure nonsense. Greenburg, who at the time had both Floyd and Manny under contract, made it clear Floyd ducked the fight for no conceivable reason to go on 'vacation'. Worst yet, his representatives outright lied to the media about it.

This is just History repeating itself. With Canelo poaching his date, don't be surprised to see Floyd taking much needed time off to slap the hell out of female family members/strippers/etc instead of fighting this Spring.

[jas]

looks like the fight is on

lol at fl0mos being butthurt for their idol because arum is trash talking floyd