Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Arum 'Not Truthful' on Mayweather Talks

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  • IMDAZED
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    #121
    Originally posted by RSBonos
    Well everything will collapse or come together in a weeks time.

    I think Mayweather was hoping the fight would happen spring of 2016 (when his contract runs out) or at the very least september 2015, either way the pressure is so great any other opponent will get a massive backlash, coupled with Canelo fighting on those dates it's a disaster. Normally that would force the fight, but i'm not sure, nothing to do with him being scared, it's just his massive ego, he hates being dictated too.
    I don't think so. I doubt the CEO would be directly involved if that's the plan. Let's not entertain fairy tales.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #122
      Originally posted by Flash13
      I don't want to really defend bob here, but Floyd called him out through Ariza first.
      No, Arum began this weeks ago.

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      • MisanthropicNY
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        #123
        Originally posted by KillerJones
        The fight is indeed done. But only Floyd and Espinoza know that. At some point, it became clear to Floyd this time is different. He cannot get away with evading Pacquiao and still have any semblance of public support.

        Floyd is being dogged everywhere he goes, 10X more than ever. People are chanting Pacs name at basketball games at him. Last time he had half the American public who cared, on his side. This time, basically none. There are no supporters this time. None.

        But, since Pacquiao has already made it known that he signed the contract and is waiting on Floyd. I think only a madman would claim Pacquiao made this all up. We all know Floyd. If he is taking this fight, and he is, the only thing his ego will allow him to say is, " There is no contract, we still working on the fight."
        I don't think you remember Floyd saying "I'm a rich coward"

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        • davidandrei
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          #124
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          We dont want responses , Bob should have shut his mouth in the first place , let this run its course without the media BS , Arum always must start yapping , nobody else said a word until Bob had to start his sht all we knew was all partys were trying to get it done , but nope Bob starts his BS again .
          i think we do need this. whether arum espinoza or any of them are telling the truth, the fans are speaking up. if everything is a lie, one thing is true. fans have spoken and we say stop the bull****, we want to see this fight. if that means that we have to call floyd a duck, then so be it. if mayweather had gotten on the pr bandwagon first and made pacquiao look like a duck, i would honestly be saying pacuiao sign the contract too.
          if as fans we just sit and wait, we concede that we dont matter and will only take what we are given.

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          • KillerJones
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            #125
            Originally posted by jjsmyth87
            It took two weeks of pacquiao, arum, and kontz of constant pressure through the media saying the terms have been agreed to and for Floyd to sign off on the deal for anyone involved in negotiations from mayweathers side to finally come out and say bob arum isn't being truthful. Its obvious he is trying to do damage control at this point. Otherwise he would have came out right away and said arum is lying. He is getting tired of being made look bad in the media so he had to do this. Espinoza is lying
            Yup, Floyd is just doing damage control.

            Pacquiao said everything Arum said. Everything. But Floyd cannot attack Pacquiaos credibility, so he says Arums is lying about everything, there is no contract.

            Well Floyd what in gods name are you talking about? Why are you attacking what Arum said, when Pacquiao said those EXACT same things first? Why are not claiming Paccquiao was lying? Doesn't make a lick of sense.

            This is all for the benefit of Floyds ego. And yup, the pressure finally got to him. Pacquiao really put the screws to him by exposing the fact he had signed the contract and is waiting on Floyd.

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            • jjsmyth87
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              #126
              Originally posted by boogybro
              Yours and other posts like this just reek of confirmation bias on the matter. If Arum and Koncz spent as much time negotiating as they do spouting BS to the media maybe this fight would've been signed already.
              When all points have been negotiated already for two weeks and everyone is adament about it, with nobody from mayweathers aide refuting it for two weeks it seems pretty likely arum is telling the truth and theres nothing left to do but pressure Floyd into agreeing to fight.

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              • ADP02
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                #127
                Sorry but Floyd and Ariza were saying that it was Arum the problem with the negotiations but not even Espinoza is saying that.

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #128
                  Floyd: "What if I get hurt and end up having to walk for the rest of my life with a cane doughhhhhhhhhh"

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                  • RSBonos
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I don't think so. I doubt the CEO would be directly involved if that's the plan. Let's not entertain fairy tales.
                    Another option is for him to move off May 2nd and run a PPV on a different date, which would make him look ******, that or another semi-retirement.

                    Speaking of his ego, he has the right to dictate terms to HBO, so it's no wonder why they haven't finished the broadcast deal.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by RSBonos
                      Another option is for him to move off May 2nd and run a PPV on a different date, which would make him look ******, that or another semi-retirement.

                      Speaking of his ego, he has the right to dictate terms to HBO, so it's no wonder why they haven't finished the broadcast deal.
                      Either way, the CEO's are involved. Not to entertain fairy tales of other dates, etc.

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