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  • That is utter nonsense that Floyd is negotiating for a better deal for Sho. That is absolute insanity, and ignorance of how corporations work, and how Floyd works.

    Floyd only negotiates for himself. He spends his days spending 100,000 grand a day on strippers. He doesn't care, nor have in the inclination, to negotiate on their behalf. Floyd, benovelent defender of Showtime. Lol. Talk about preposterous reaching.

    Can you guys not read between the lines? Espinoza says things that make it seem like they are on the path to the fight, not that there are major obstacles, or that there is a single specific problem. It's obvious Floyd is about to take the damned fight, but is doing some damage control.

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Well they're saying they've signed. So which is it?
      Two different issues.

      They're waiting now for @FloydMayweather to become satisfied with TV deal between @SHOsports and @HBOboxing.
      Lance Pugmire

      TMT crony said the same thing a day or two ago, if he is to be believed.
      Last edited by RSBonos; 01-24-2015, 06:43 PM.

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      • Originally posted by RSBonos View Post
        Two different issues.
        Two things they said. Sounds like BS. Either they're lying or not.

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        • You can see the strings attached to Espinoza's limbs if the light is right, but I'm not sure if his mouth movements are in sync with Haymon's voice.

          At any rate he has feathered his nest nicely and will land on his feet with Haymon/Schaefer after his ass is fired by CBS.

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          • I tend to believe an executive of a company who he represents publicly, who if he were proven to be a liar, could negatively affect the business reputation of that company over a boxing promoter. Showtime would fire Espinoza for unethical practices for making a false public statement. Espinoza is an employee at a company, he has people to report to. Arum has been known to lie in public statements. If Espinoza puts on bad cards then he is a poor matchmaker not a liar.

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            • When Arum, a known liar and the man who said Manny was scared of needles, he needed an outdoor stadium, and "absolutely no, nope," during the last round of negotiations, says "we're waiting on Floyd," speaks, everyone believes him. However, when a TV executive says, there's no contract, and they're still working to make the fight happen, people here don't believe him. That's just hate! I don't know who is telling the truth, but history shows us that Arum is NOT TO BE TRUSTED!

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              • Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
                This is true. He was very careful not to mention Arum and Pacquiao as "open" issues. He does mention Haymon tho... isn't that just indirectly mentioning floyd?!
                Right, I was thinking the same. Besides the Networks, they are still mentioning Haymon who is the one who is doing the negotiating for Floyd.

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                • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  When Arum, a known liar and the man who said Manny was scared of needles, he needed an outdoor stadium, and "absolutely no, nope," during the last round of negotiations, says "we're waiting on Floyd," speaks, everyone believes him. However, when a TV executive says, there's no contract, and they're still working to make the fight happen, people here don't believe him. That's just hate! I don't know who is telling the truth, but history shows us that Arum is NOT TO BE TRUSTED!
                  Like I said before, confirmation bias.

                  At the end of the day people are going to believe who they want to believe. And it just so happens quite a few people on this board are emotionally invested in Manny Pacquiao, so even if it is Bob Arum spouting BS, his word is gospel.

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                  • Originally posted by Canvas View Post
                    You can see the strings attached to Espinoza's limbs if the light is right, but I'm not sure if his mouth movements are in sync with Haymon's voice.

                    At any rate he has feathered his nest nicely and will land on his feet with Haymon/Schaefer after his ass is fired by CBS.
                    You see he names other independent extremely powerful people like Moonves and HBO , you notice Arum never names anybody else that can verify what he says .

                    You notice Manny can meet Khan but Koncz will not allow Manny to meet Floyd , I have a feeling Manny would learn too much information if he met Floyd and Koncz dont want that .

                    Arum said he spoke to Al Haymon personally and they are on the same page , what does that mean seeing as Arum in your mind is always truthful but everybody else is a liar .

                    I get a feeling if its bagging Floyd its truthful and if its not bagging Floyd its a lie .

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                    • Arum can puppet pacquiao all he wants. But that weak shiat don't work against mayweather.

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