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  • RSBonos
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    #111
    Originally posted by Flash13
    The only say showtime has are the pre agreed upon names in the contract, so yes if this fight doesn't come off. Floyd is going to royally **** them.

    Edit: Let me add one more thing, not saying Arum isn't full of it idk wtf is going on anymore. But Showtime has to protect Floyd, because if this comes off as a huge duck, the boycott will be massive. They owe him 32 mill if it has one buy or a million.
    rip showtime boxing

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    • IMDAZED
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      #112
      Originally posted by RSBonos
      I was just looking up Cotto's purse against Martinez and he got 7 million. Mayweather-Cotto II is almost impossible to make from the financial side, CBS will get crushed with all the backlash and running against a non-ppv Canelo fight.

      This is the one point that still gives me hope that the big fight will happen instead, either that or Mayweather has an incredible guaranteed deal with Showtime where the CBS people have no say.
      If you're right, that should tell you how bad they want the Pacquiao fight. No need for them to lie.

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      • jjsmyth87
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        #113
        It took two weeks of pacquiao, arum, and kontz of constant pressure through the media saying the terms have been agreed to and for Floyd to sign off on the deal for anyone involved in negotiations from mayweathers side to finally come out and say bob arum isn't being truthful. Its obvious he is trying to do damage control at this point. Otherwise he would have came out right away and said arum is lying. He is getting tired of being made look bad in the media so he had to do this. Espinoza is lying

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        • Reloaded
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          #114
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Well unless Espinoza is being kept out of the loop, then he has made it clear Bob is lying. I await bob's response.
          We dont want responses , Bob should have shut his mouth in the first place , let this run its course without the media BS , Arum always must start yapping , nobody else said a word until Bob had to start his sht all we knew was all partys were trying to get it done , but nope Bob starts his BS again .

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            #115
            Originally posted by jjsmyth87
            It took two weeks of pacquiao, arum, and kontz of constant pressure through the media saying the terms have been agreed to and for Floyd to sign off on the deal for anyone involved in negotiations from mayweathers side to finally come out and say bob arum isn't being truthful. Its obvious he is trying to do damage control at this point. Otherwise he would have came out right away and said arum is lying. He is getting tired of being made look bad in the media so he had to do this. Espinoza is lying
            Youre a first class fool !

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            • RSBonos
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              #116
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              If you're right, that should tell you how bad they want the Pacquiao fight. No need for them to lie.
              Well everything will collapse or come together in a weeks time.

              I think Mayweather was hoping the fight would happen spring of 2016 (when his contract runs out) or at the very least september 2015, either way the pressure is so great any other opponent will get a massive backlash, coupled with Canelo fighting on those dates it's a disaster. Normally that would force the fight, but i'm not sure, nothing to do with him being scared, it's just his massive ego, he hates being dictated too.

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              • JoeKidd
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                #117


                Arum sounds a whole lot more believable. Even discussed who is announced first, who enters the ring last, moving of percentages... Espinoza and Ariza are probably working on damage control. My take: who gives a flying **** if he doesn't want to fight. Move on.

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                • boogybro
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by jjsmyth87
                  It took two weeks of pacquiao, arum, and kontz of constant pressure through the media saying the terms have been agreed to and for Floyd to sign off on the deal for anyone involved in negotiations from mayweathers side to finally come out and say bob arum isn't being truthful. Its obvious he is trying to do damage control at this point. Otherwise he would have came out right away and said arum is lying. He is getting tired of being made look bad in the media so he had to do this. Espinoza is lying
                  Yours and other posts like this just reek of confirmation bias on the matter. If Arum and Koncz spent as much time negotiating as they do spouting BS to the media maybe this fight would've been signed already.

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                  • Flash13
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    We dont want responses , Bob should have shut his mouth in the first place , let this run its course without the media BS , Arum always must start yapping , nobody else said a word until Bob had to start his sht all we knew was all partys were trying to get it done , but nope Bob starts his BS again .
                    I don't want to really defend bob here, but Floyd called him out through Ariza first.

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                    • jjsmyth87
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by boogybro
                      Just to make my stance clear on the situation. I do believe Pac does want this fight and has wanted since the beginning, as I do Floyd. It just so happens his promoter is, and always will be a lying scumbag and will always be the hold up when it comes to this fight.
                      Even Espinoza isn't claiming arum is holding up the fight, he is claiming they are still in negotiations. Seems weird when arum kontz and pacquiao have been adament for the last 2 weeks that all points have been negotiated, without a word from Espinoza to refute that for 2 whole weeks.

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