Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on Mayweather: He Has To Take It, Sign It!

[twosweethooks]

Oscar is speaking from the heart. ONLY IDIOTS make fun of him. OH oh sorry, I meant ****** CONVOLUTED IDIOTS !!

HE spoke the TRUTH !!!!

*********************FEAR*********************

JR's body language , antics, and NOT coming to the table to say OK you have agreed to my demands, LETS DO IT,,,spells FEAR,,,CUR FEAR !!!!!!

There is ONE who knows Pac can BEAT HIM MISERABLY and thats JR.

[AgainstTheRopes]

This fight shhh has been a big soap opera. This fight is irrelevant as hell today because regardless of who won they didn't face the best version of each other and thats an undeniable. Doesn't matter which side you support, neither man is what they were five, four, three years ago. At this point the only reason for this fight happening is for the history books and to make ppl a whole lot of money. The thing that pisses me off though is that this is setting up the precedent for the stars in the making of the sport.

Its certainly not the historic event everyone wanted it to be but at the very least its still a fight between two Top 5, possibly the two best, fighters and who wouldn't want to see that?

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

He knows he cannot beat Manny by decision, nobody has legitimately done that since Morales 1 10 years ago, every other fight has been Manny blowing everyone out with the exception of Marquez and those fights were very close, with Manny getting the decisions due to being the aggressor. It makes sense if 2 fighters land an equal number of punches and they are about equally as effective, the judges will give the rounds to the guy who pushed the action and not the guy on his back foot counter punching, and that's how it should be. Floyd will not be able to overcome pacquiao by potshotting, he will need to step it up and punch alot more than usual which will leave him open to powerful left hands from Manny who could knock him out. Floyd knows he cannot beat Manny hence why he is so apprehensive to fight him for triple his career high payday

If you think like that then consider this, if Marquez could beat Manny counter punch knock out!!! Why can't Floyd do the same? He would be timing Manny coming in and unload one of those straight right hands? Why couldn't that be a result? I agree it would be hard for anyone to beat Manny on decision since he is so active but we are not talking about just anyone here, you do realize that?

[SchoolTheseCats]

He knows he cannot beat Manny by decision, nobody has legitimately done that since Morales 1 10 years ago, every other fight has been Manny blowing everyone out with the exception of Marquez and those fights were very close, with Manny getting the decisions due to being the aggressor. It makes sense if 2 fighters land an equal number of punches and they are about equally as effective, the judges will give the rounds to the guy who pushed the action and not the guy on his back foot counter punching, and that's how it should be. Floyd will not be able to overcome pacquiao by potshotting, he will need to step it up and punch alot more than usual which will leave him open to powerful left hands from Manny who could knock him out. Floyd knows he cannot beat Manny hence why he is so apprehensive to fight him for triple his career high payday

everybody Floyd has fought have tried to be the aggressor and potshotted them to decisions ones of late boxers can't outthink him in ring so that's there only chance of winning lets just all the fan boys stop sucking off both Floyd and manny and agree manny walked away from fight when they both was at there peak both are not now Floyd been throwing roadblocks fight can finally be made now and yall bickering back and forth like schoolgirls sit down drink some tea watch some **** and relax hopefully we get the fight late if not forget them both stop supporting they ppvs as fans we going have enough good free fights this year to let they ppv numbers plummet

[turnedup]

Its certainly not the historic event everyone wanted it to be but at the very least its still a fight between two Top 5, possibly the two best, fighters and who wouldn't want to see that?

Didn't say people wouldnt want to watch but those who can think independently aren't going to put the same weight on the result on it as they would when these men were at their peak. I equate this fight to two 1985 honda's having a race down the street trying hard to not break down before the race is over. Deciding who is really #1 a fight or two before you retire doesn't do justice to the sport or fans.

[twosweethooks]

What do you think all the CBS HBO Showtime meetings and paper work in the hands of lawyers is all about ?

So your excuse is Jr's? Arum? Arum came to Moonves, Jr didn't. Arum instagated HBO x Showtime JR didn't. Arum and Pac AGREED to JR's DEMANDS, Jr won't accept that they came and agreed to his demands.

Whats left to agree to ???????

[jjsmyth87]

This fight shhh has been a big soap opera. This fight is irrelevant as hell today because regardless of who won they didn't face the best version of each other and thats an undeniable. Doesn't matter which side you support, neither man is what they were five, four, three years ago. At this point the only reason for this fight happening is for the history books and to make ppl a whole lot of money. The thing that pisses me off though is that this is setting up the precedent for the stars in the making of the sport.

The way fighters become real stars like Manny and mayweather is to take on the best and beat them consistently. This is why haymon has been doing his fighters a big disservice by giving them mismatches. It took both Manny and Floyd years of beating top opponents to become the big ppv stars they are today. Who does haymon have that is on that path to superstardom? The answer is nobody because he gives them 1 tough fight to every 4 easy ones and they will never become ppv stars. Mikey Garcia and Terance Crawford have been fighting the best opponents available and have been winning, and the fans have responded by tuning in big time which is why once Manny retires they will take over as ppv stars so long as they keep fighting top opposition. Keith Thurman could be near ppv status if haymon would have let him fight tough fights, but he's just barely now headlining a card for the first time. Crawford went from an unknown to on the verge of being a huge star in a matter of a year by beating 3 tough fighters who were considered the top of their divisions. That's how its supposed to be done, that's why top rank always builds all the stars. They've built de la Hoya, mayweather, cotto, pacquiao, Marquez, Chavez Jr, basically all of the top ppv fighters of our generation. Say what you want about bob arum but he knows how to make stars

[AllBoxingAD]

Ok so why cant Floyd sign an offer then? Hes scared plain and simple

Again, Floyd has a stake in the HBO/SHO dealings, and until that is complete, there is no reason for Floyd to sign anything.

Im telling you whats been reported by Lance Pugmire, just in case you think Im making it all up.

[jjsmyth87]

So your excuse is Jr's? Arum? Arum came to Moonves, Jr didn't. Arum instagated HBO x Showtime JR didn't. Arum and Pac AGREED to JR's DEMANDS, Jr won't accept that they came and agreed to his demands.

Whats left to agree to ???????

Lets not forget that a little before Pac fought algieri mayweather sr. Was quoted as saying that he believed that mayweather Jr should fight pacquiao and compared it to Ali Frazier and hagler and hearns. Floyd then gave an interview admonishing his father and threatening to fire him for saying he should fight pacquiao. He also said he would rather fight two bums because he would make the same money as fighting pacquiao once. This is his own words saying he'd rather cherry pick easy opposition and this was very recent just before the foot locker commercial. Now all of a sudden he's acting like he wants to fight only because Manny has been duck shaming him through the media. He will find an excuse, most likely he will say bob arum has been difficult or some other b.s. Lie and cherry pick cotto. Sad but true it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

[SchoolTheseCats]

I still think he was under contract in the beginning, but either way golden boy has promoted every single fight since he left top rank and that's a fact. I could be wrong about him being under contract I've been wrong plenty of times in the past, but bottom line does it really matter? The fact still remains golden boy has promoted or co promoted like you say every fight. Manny has his fights co promoted by top rank too, he has MP promotions but call it what you want top rank promotes his fights just like golden boy promoted mayweather

Difference is manny is signed to top rank can not use any other promoter Floyd can it's no contract saying you owe golden boy this amount of fights he is signed to a 6 fight contract with showtime my promotional or yours for that matter can co promote Floyd next fight even though he now has his promotional license in Nevada so won't be using golden boy no more also a reason oscars a little butthurt his promotional company won't be plaster around mgm for the biggest fight in history once it's finally made fingers cross I wanna see how Floyd handles manny pressure and what gameplan manny comes up with once he start tasting them counters will he freeze up play it self cause he having flashbacks of Marquez ko or will he go in for kill and stay aggressive I'm just looking at it from a boxing fan point of view not with my blinders on like the ***** and *******s as yall call eachother on this forum and everywhere else lol