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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    I purposely didn't say yes or no because pricing yourself out involves negotiations. And if that was the case then they both price themselves out because Manny wanted 50-50 in return. LOL @ yes or no. You don't own me, kid. Now come back and reason like a man.
    Well negotiations were impossible because floyd said, "40 mill no ppv money take it or leave it." They both priced themselves out?! Dude Manny offering 50/50 is 100 times more fair than floyd offering 40 mill no ppv money. They aren't comparable at all. Just to add that Manny's PPV with marquez sold MORE BUYS than mayweathers with Ortiz.... So 50/50 is not THAT far fetched...

    Let me just add its hard to come up with stuff to fire back at me, because floyd has made it hard. He makes it harder on you fl0m's daily. See i am an objective fan, who has seen the writing on the wall. I didn't pick this side, the facts did. I gotta go, good day.
    Last edited by Flash13; 01-21-2015, 12:31 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
      Well negotiations were impossible because floyd said, "40 mill no ppv money take it or leave it." They both priced themselves out?! Dude Manny offering 50/50 is 100 times more fair than floyd offering 40 mill no ppv money. They aren't comparable at all. Just to add that Manny's PPV with marquez sold MORE BUYS than mayweathers with Ortiz.... So 50/50 is not THAT far fetched...
      Your whole post is far fetched. He said they hung up the phone before they could even discuss. Then Arum said they couldn't fight in May because they had to build a stadium.

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      • Originally posted by THE REED™
        Floyd will see it an unbelievable backlash if the fight doesnt happen, and it doesnt even matter if it's his fault.

        Public perception is everything.... 98% of the public boxing fans, arent on these forums and dont know all the details, all they know is what they hear... and what they hear is Manny is ready to go and Floyd is finding another reason not to fight... I bet his next fight tanks even worse.
        I don't think floyd cares tho. He makes 32 mill if there is one buy, or a million.

        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Your whole post is far fetched. He said they hung up the phone before they could even discuss. Then Arum said they couldn't fight in May because they had to build a stadium.
        Just stop. You're stuff doesn't even make sense anymore. It's ridiculous, haha now i'm gone.

        Btw: The stadium is a lie created by fl0ms like yourself. Bob did want to build the stadium, but the 40 mill offer killed the fight.

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        • Originally posted by Flash13 View Post

          Btw: The stadium is a lie created by fl0ms like yourself. Bob did want to build the stadium, but the 40 mill offer killed the fight.
          Yeah, go away now.

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          • i see IMDAZED has found a new cause celebre after his first true love (floyd saving and cleaning up the sport) massively failed.

            he's now doing the whole "but if they agreed why are they still negotiating" act trying his hardest to defend floyd.


            i seem to remember when floyd "agreed" to his terms during the failed first negotiations how floyd fck bois ran with it as if its some smoking gun to a clear duck by pac only this time its pac doing all the agreeing but somehow that's not ok now.



            floyd can do it and play that game but when pacquiao does it, its massive cherry picking dodging.

            -first it was this is just all arum making **** up, there is no negotiations until i start hearing from the other side

            so when team floyd start letting out snippets that there is negotiations the repugnant fl 0m 0s like IMDAZED have to change the narrative.

            "its about may 2nd"
            "it dont matter if floyd aint mexican trying to bogart a mexican holiday its his date. it was decreed by jesus. those dates are his."

            now you have pacquiao agreeing to all of floyd old demands,
            now you have floyd's new trainer saying its looking like cotto,

            the IMDAZED fl 0m 0 101st battalion have to come up with a new narrative (remember his drug crusade? loooooooooooool) and that's now using pathetic semantic literal wording like "bu bu but how could they agree if they still negotiating" narrative as huge massive financial deals havent worked this way before.

            first they were catch weight experts
            then they became financial business experts
            then they became wealth management experts
            then they became drug crusaders cleaning up the sport experts
            then they became tv executive experts



            these repugnant human beings have no shame.

            none whatsoever.

            i mean they defended floyd beating women, being racist. they kill for floyd. they literally do.

            this is nothing for them.

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            • Originally posted by THE REED™
              Floyd will see it an unbelievable backlash if the fight doesnt happen, and it doesnt even matter if it's his fault.

              Public perception is everything.... 98% of the public boxing fans, arent on these forums and dont know all the details, all they know is what they hear... and what they hear is Manny is ready to go and Floyd is finding another reason not to fight... I bet his next fight tanks even worse.
              Exactly.

              Surely they know this.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Exactly.

                Surely they know this.
                Pretty sure that hasn't changed since the first negotiation. He received a huge backlash for that too. It was his fault, remember? Mayweather will never win over public opinion.

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                • Originally posted by THE REED™
                  Showtime also has to know this, and they will lose even more money.

                  I know Showtime can opt out of the floyd contract if they want... if I was them, Id say look Floyd, we're back into a corner here... Either we fight Pacquiao or this is where the train ends.
                  What if Arum doesn't want the fight? Then what.

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Pretty sure that hasn't changed since the first negotiation. He received a huge backlash for that too. It was his fault, remember? Mayweather will never win over public opinion.
                    Which is pretty much his own fault, if we're being honest. He basically says all the wrong things every time he opens his mouth.

                    I believe the backlash this time, will be much worse. Especially if he fights Cotto. People are basically going to dismiss it as, a) he ducked Pacquiao, and b) he's already beaten Cotto.

                    Considering how close the Pacquiao fight appears/appeared to be this time, I think the backlash will be terrible.

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Pretty sure that hasn't changed since the first negotiation. He received a huge backlash for that too. It was his fault, remember? Mayweather will never win over public opinion.
                      Nah but not like this time.

                      That first one had reasons to fall through.

                      What's the reason for this one? I can't see a legitimate one.

                      But we'll see.

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