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  • nathan_nall
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    #91
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    You missed the whole point , HBO and Showtime both want the delay replay rights , last time it was settled by the winner gets it , HBO dont like that deal because they think Floyd wins !

    It has nothing to with taking a loss , its about betting on who they think will win in deciding a lucrative business decision , HBO does not want to bet on Manny .
    No I get what is being proposed. You have to back up and look at two things; first, the op I was responding to. I was very much on topic and on point.

    Secondly, my original post where I said they buck both networks and go with a lesser network (Sky Sports, Fox Sports, ESPN, etc.) The fight sells itself. You don't need a big network to hold it up. I just don't know if their contracts mandate that they can NOT fight under another banner.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      I thought it was scaring them as far as a rematch would be concerned with Floyd dominating and no rematch warranted , I didnt realize what is at stake with delayed telecasts .

      Conversely when either is left in making a business decision by betting on who the winner is going to be HBO is on the loser , or at least they think they are and it is making them very nervous .
      well to be fair there is a ton at stake that rebroadcast will prob have more viewers then the actual ppv depending what happens in the fight

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        #93
        Originally posted by nathan_nall
        No I get what is being proposed. You have to back up and look at two things; first, the op I was responding to. I was very much on topic and on point.

        Secondly, my original post where I said they buck both networks and go with a lesser network (Sky Sports, Fox Sports, ESPN, etc.) The fight sells itself. You don't need a big network to hold it up. I just don't know if their contracts mandate that they can NOT fight under another banner.
        Floyd is contractually obligated to Showtime with his deal, so right off the bat that is impossible.

        Not sure of the particulars, but considering the fact that Top Rank exclusively fights on HBO I would imagine their promotion have contractual obligations to HBO as well.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Carpe Diem
          Corona is associated with GBP. GBP is not involved in making this fight.
          And that's fkin crazy! Never would have thought GoldenBoy would end up on the outside looking in.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Check_hooks
            Everyone knows that Haymon has a reputation for robbing fighters

            Just watch the Cano and Herrera fight which were both the robbery of the year. Do yall remember what the NSAC did when Floyd had to testify? They let him get away with weed and almost got two fighters seriously injured. They recently just let Jon Jones do coke and have low testosterone and no punishment whatsoever.

            If this fight ends in a KO than that network gets to show the delay

            If this fight goes to the scorecards than both get to air it. Problem solved

            oh please arum been rigging fights before u were born

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              #96
              Originally posted by Biolink
              Floyd is contractually obligated to Showtime with his deal, so right off the bat that is impossible.

              Not sure of the particulars, but considering the fact that Top Rank exclusively fights on HBO I would imagine their promotion have contractual obligations to HBO as well.
              Yeah, you're probably right. I just wondered if their agreements were similar to what belt holders have with sanctioning bodies. You can fight whoever you want inbetween mandatories... so long as you fight our mandatories.

              I wondered if Floyd or Manny could fight for outside networks so long as they fulfilled their # of fight contracts with HBO/Showtime in a timely manner.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                well to be fair there is a ton at stake that rebroadcast will prob have more viewers then the actual ppv depending what happens in the fight
                Oh off course I understand what your saying , I guess people in forums talk Manny up in this fight but the fact is Floyd is odds on fav to win and these people are business people not forum fans .

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                  #98
                  This fight is happening on Showtime, or not at all.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by BrushMyHair
                    This fight is happening on Showtime, or not at all.
                    They are already both doing a joint venture its just hashing out the details .

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by nathan_nall
                      Yeah, you're probably right. I just wondered if their agreements were similar to what belt holders have with sanctioning bodies. You can fight whoever you want inbetween mandatories... so long as you fight our mandatories.

                      I wondered if Floyd or Manny could fight for outside networks so long as they fulfilled their # of fight contracts with HBO/Showtime in a timely manner.
                      Showtime is not going for that. Do you think they would be cool with being shut out of the biggest PPV event in history and would just welcome Floyd back with open arms to finish out his 30 million per fight deal?

                      Same thing with Manny.

                      It's not possible without the full cooperation of both networks. You aren't talking about a couple of non-PPV fighters or the network not caring what network they fight on because they weren't interested in picking up the broadcast rights to fight with a no-name mandatory.

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