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  • Elroy1
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pigeons
    Deontay Wilder's resume is underrated. Scott in 96 seconds, Liakhovich in 103 seconds, Harrison in 70 seconds.
    It has an obvious potential, that is true!

    He even finished a common good opponent faster than Stiverne did.

    It obviously has potential.

    And in a historical sense, Wilder's record is approximately 50-100 times better than that of former champs Sonny Liston and Ken Nortons for example.

    For todays standards there is no 2 ways about it, Deontay is a bum buster! So far only little more! Scott certainly was no bum! Neither was Liakhovich.

    If Stiverne is bested by Wilder, I would instantly elevate Wilder in my ratings (but not before). I think besting Stiverne is a proof of concept.

    Wilder WIN over Stiverne = REAL DEAL!

    This is a fact!

    WE can continue to throw smack at Wilder after should this occur for moot reasons but he can only thereafter be considered an elite level fighter and highly dangerous.

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    • creekrat77
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      #12
      Originally posted by Elroy1
      It has an obvious potential, that is true!

      He even finished a common good opponent faster than Stiverne did.

      It obviously has potential.

      And in a historical sense, Wilder's record is approximately 50-100 times better than that of former champs Sonny Liston and Ken Nortons for example.

      For todays standards there is no 2 ways about it, Deontay is a bum buster! So far only little more! Scott certainly was no bum! Neither was Liakhovich.

      If Stiverne is bested by Wilder, I would instantly elevate Wilder in my ratings (but not before). I think besting Stiverne is a proof of concept.

      Wilder WIN over Stiverne = REAL DEAL!

      This is a fact!

      WE can continue to throw smack at Wilder after should this occur for moot reasons but he can only thereafter be considered an elite level fighter and highly dangerous.
      How has Wilder achieved a resume better then Ken Norton and Sonny Liston?

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      • Japanese Badass
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        #13
        Originally posted by Golovkin
        BOOOOOOOMMMBBBBB SQUUUUUAAAAAAADDDDD!!!!!

        Don't worry about those losers Wilder. Just go in there, knock that Ewok out and these haters will be talking gibberish smack with their tails between their legs.
        Real talk.

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        • Elroy1
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          #14
          Originally posted by creekrat77
          How has Wilder achieved a resume better then Ken Norton and Sonny Liston?
          We have done this before...

          Because he faced opponents with 2ce as good a records on average.

          Because he has beaten much heftier opponents

          Because he has KOed all of his opponents

          Because he didn't lose to a 12-2 Cruiser (Norton)

          Because he couldn't cherry pick cruisers

          Because his KO speed is much faster than either (4x)

          Because he scored many more KO's in 200+ fights

          Because he faced twice as many opponents that were proven dangerous at 200+ HW than Sonny and Kenny COMBINED! (Based on opponents sum total of KO's of 200+ opponents)

          Because Sonny and Ken outweighed most of their opponents whereas Wilder is actually OUTWEIGHED more than he outweighs.

          Because Wilder compiled this record faster than either.

          Because his opponents had 2ce as good winning streaks than either on average.

          And so on.

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          • Suckmedry
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            #15
            Originally posted by creekrat77
            How has Wilder achieved a resume better then Ken Norton and Sonny Liston?
            hahahaha don't bother the guy is crazy

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            • bojangles1987
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              #16
              It would satisfy me. Don't particularly care if it satisfies others or not. I expect Wilder to get knocked the **** out.

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              • MrRolltide91
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                #17
                it should....

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                • kafkod
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pigeons
                  Deontay Wilder's resume is underrated. Scott in 96 seconds, Liakhovich in 103 seconds, Harrison in 70 seconds.
                  Liakhovich was shot, everybody knows that.

                  Harrison was beyond shot. In his previous fight Audley was KO'd just as quickly and much more brutally by David Price.

                  Scott was also KO'd in his previous fight and didn't look like he'd even bothered to train for Deontay. He usually looks lean and fit but showed up pudgy and overweight for a title eliminator. I'm not saying he took a dive, but he didn't come to fight, that's for sure.

                  Tyson Fury is having a "stay busy fight" while he waits for his shot at Wlad. His opponent, Christian Hammer, is ranked higher than anybody Wilder has yet fought, including Scott.

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                  • creekrat77
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Elroy1
                    We have done this before...

                    Because he faced opponents with 2ce as good a records on average.

                    Because he has beaten much heftier opponents

                    Because he has KOed all of his opponents

                    Because he didn't lose to a 12-2 Cruiser (Norton)

                    Because he couldn't cherry pick cruisers

                    Because his KO speed is much faster than either (4x)

                    Because he scored many more KO's in 200+ fights

                    Because he faced twice as many opponents that were proven dangerous at 200+ HW than Sonny and Kenny COMBINED! (Based on opponents sum total of KO's of 200+ opponents)

                    Because Sonny and Ken outweighed most of their opponents whereas Wilder is actually OUTWEIGHED more than he outweighs.

                    Because Wilder compiled this record faster than either.

                    Because his opponents had 2ce as good winning streaks than either on average.

                    And so on.
                    You don't see the same transfer of athleticism and speed when you get above 200 lbs. That is why heavyweight is unlimited. For instance Navy Seal BUDS look for soldiers who are between 5'9 and under 6'2 because when you get above 5'10 you don't see lung size set to scale for the body frame. That's why you hear all the time people saying that big heavyweights are prone to lack stamina and work rate.

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