Comments Thread For: Hunter: Pacquiao Not Reinvented, Mayweather Beats Him

[PACBOY]

doesnt matter. Floyd will not fight him!

[Rath]

Rath pac was a teenager before he hit the states so i dont expect too have many ko's before then if he did or didnt my thing is - he walked right through some tough opponents during his mega run now he struggles too drop rios bradley

Pac's last ko was hatton and that was 140lbs. then the PED rumor after Cotto

imagine that hatton was also Floyd last ko 147lbs then they accuse Pac of PED and started the random test. is it not a coincidence that both Floyd and Pac suddenly stop KOing opponents at the same time?

one more thing has the mayweathers accused any fighter of PED use in the past and up until now besides Pac?

[Pago007]

@Adpo actually in that very same article first paragraph arum said the fight cant happen on that date do i need too upload the article

But the only part u speak on is the last paragraph were he contradicts himself and said im not saying it cant happen or whatever typical arum


And floyd is right in 2009/10 pac was maybe worth 50/50
2012 he felt he was worth 40million hadnt loss yet nor koed
Now after 2 L's and subpar ppv #'s i wouldnt give him the same either

[Bronx2245]

I see your problem. Everything you said is being taken out of context.

For one, if Arum hears Floyd say and then reiterate the same to the public "Manny is going to get even less than what we offered him in 2012", what do you expect from Arum? With what Floyd said, the date means nothing to him. He said it already, it doesn't mean no fight on May 2nd. He just doesn't care as that date just is profitable for Floyd NOT Manny.

The other points you said require a timeline. Manny's advisor thought nothing was going on previously. Only recently has he said it's moving. As for Dan's comments. That too was "as far as he knew". Negotiations are not static. Things can change from one minute to the next.

What Pac fans seem to be ignoring is Mr. Gacal (Manny's lawyer). Mr. Gacal has been adamant that it's Bob Arum that's the main obstacle. This has already been well documented (Arum killed the second round of negotiations with stadiums, cuts, etc.) by Dan Rafael in the past, so why wouldn't anyone believe he's the obstacle now? Even Freddie stated publicly that Mr. Moonves called Arum "the Devil." Rational people know that Manny is not scared of Floyd, but they also understand that Arum is only interested in what's good for Arum. He's trying to get Cotto a fight with Canelo, but he knows Canelo wants a fight on Cinco de Mayo. Does Arum do what's best for Manny (get the fight for May 2nd), or does he try to push Floyd's buttons once again, and ask the #1P4P fighter to move from the date, to accommodate 2 fighters that he's already beaten?

[Pago007]

Floyd stopped ortiz also dont forget that @rath
And no, but as i recall many other fighters suspect manny is doping as well paulie, mosley told floyd if i were u i would make him take the test, bj flores trainers teddy atlas, the list goes on - and for the recorf floyd wasnt the first too ask a fighter too take stringent blood test - name another fighter who moves up all those weights and stops bigger guys, some maybe nobody else raised red flags too floyd camp

[Francis M.]

LOL floydies are in full attack mode since PAC became vocal and not giving Floyd any excuse to duck....

[Rath]

Floyd stopped ortiz also dont forget that @rath
And no, but as i recall many other fighters suspect manny is doping as well paulie, mosley told floyd if i were u i would make him take the test, bj flores trainers teddy atlas, the list goes on - and for the recorf floyd wasnt the first too ask a fighter too take stringent blood test - name another fighter who moves up all those weights and stops bigger guys, some maybe nobody else raised red flags too floyd camp

oh sorry how could I forget about Floyd knocking ortiz my bad really.

Many other suspected Pac of Ped use?

did they suspect Pac of Ped use before or after the mayweathers accused Pac?

if you could provide me anyone or any boxing site that suspected Pac of Ped use even before the mayweathers did.

Floyd was not the first to ask for stringent drug testing, but only floyd demand Floyd style drug test and only Floyd demand exclusive drug test agency to do it.

Tell me in all sport where can you find Floyd style drug test being applied? past and present

[tjones1989]

LOL floydies are in full attack mode since PAC became vocal and not giving Floyd any excuse to duck....

They have to protect their god!

[Pago007]

Rath didnt pac just undergo floyd style drug test with algeri fight = it wasnt full random - the testinf started once the fight was signed and probably up until the date same thing floyd asked - paulie said he believed pac was juicing before the mayweathers

[Pago007]

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/st...53&src=desktop



Good read long but per dan rafeal
Floyd moved off only usada and he also states paulie accused pac also of doping