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Rewatched Pacquiao-Cotto Fight
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So Cotto would turn around and say "I was tiptop" after that beating? Just trying to extend his career with smoke and mirrors, which they all do.
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This is, by far, Pacquiao's second best win and knocking on the door of the first. Yeah, you can make excuses for Miguel (no trainer, clearly lacking confidence) but at the end of the day, that's what they are. Excuses. You can not take anything away from this performance by Pacquiao.
That said, I remember having a sinking feeling in my stomach around the fourth round or so, as Pacquiao laughed at Cotto while eating shots along the ropes. That feeling stayed with me throughout the fight, as if something terribly off was taking place before my eyes.
In the end, whether you feel he juiced or not, it doesn't take anything away from the victory either. I suspect most top fighters juice anyway so how can we detract from just one? Doesn't make sense. My issue with Pacquiao was that he robbed us of the superfight with Mayweather because of testing. That...is unforgivable. Do I discount any of his wins? No. He is still an ATG and the greatest warrior of his era. Like Roy Jones, like Evander Holyfield and who knows, maybe even Mayweather. But to turn down a fight over testing? Man.
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This was an impressive win for Pacquiao but I think Cotto fought the wrong fight. He stood in there a too long trying to trade with Pacquiao. Once he started getting hurt, he was in full retreat mode making it alot easier for Pacquiao. Cotto is fighting much smarter than he did in the past. He's moving a lot better and picking his spots rather than going into full warrior mode.
I don't buy the weight drain excuse. Once you walk into a professional boxing match you should be in optimal fighting shape. If not, that's on you, not on the guy beating up on you.
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Fair post.......Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThis is, by far, Pacquiao's second best win and knocking on the door of the first. Yeah, you can make excuses for Miguel (no trainer, clearly lacking confidence) but at the end of the day, that's what they are. Excuses. You can not take anything away from this performance by Pacquiao.
That said, I remember having a sinking feeling in my stomach around the fourth round or so, as Pacquiao laughed at Cotto while eating shots along the ropes. That feeling stayed with me throughout the fight, as if something terribly off was taking place before my eyes.
In the end, whether you feel he juiced or not, it doesn't take anything away from the victory either. I suspect most top fighters juice anyway so how can we detract from just one? Doesn't make sense. My issue with Pacquiao was that he robbed us of the superfight with Mayweather because of testing. That...is unforgivable. Do I discount any of his wins? No. He is still an ATG and the greatest warrior of his era. Like Roy Jones, like Evander Holyfield and who knows, maybe even Mayweather. But to turn down a fight over testing? Man.
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If I walk with a limp or is crippled for life will you pay my bills? No money is worth my health, I'm not making Ali mistakes. I'm a rich coward, don't watch me if you don't want to watch a scared fighter.Originally posted by Evol View PostAll of a sudden he's just gonna decide to walk thru Cotto!!
Mosley can't knock cotto down but he can?
Come on man, come on..
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What Cotto said was that he would not go down in weight again just to make a fight. Lets face it, when someone beats you like Manny beat Cotto, its hard to get up for the fight unless you get some kinda confidence but Cotto didn't get that. Perhaps the Cotto of today has some of that new confidence after beating Sergio.Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostCotto also said a couple of years ago that he was drained. Those are Cotto's words.
Remember that that same Cotto then tried to get Margarito to fight him at 150-151lbs.
So that proved that it was that Cotto lacked the confidence to fight Manny so he said what he said.
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You started your post good but then went on making excuses.Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThis is, by far, Pacquiao's second best win and knocking on the door of the first. Yeah, you can make excuses for Miguel (no trainer, clearly lacking confidence) but at the end of the day, that's what they are. Excuses. You can not take anything away from this performance by Pacquiao.
That said, I remember having a sinking feeling in my stomach around the fourth round or so, as Pacquiao laughed at Cotto while eating shots along the ropes. That feeling stayed with me throughout the fight, as if something terribly off was taking place before my eyes.
In the end, whether you feel he juiced or not, it doesn't take anything away from the victory either. I suspect most top fighters juice anyway so how can we detract from just one? Doesn't make sense. My issue with Pacquiao was that he robbed us of the superfight with Mayweather because of testing. That...is unforgivable. Do I discount any of his wins? No. He is still an ATG and the greatest warrior of his era. Like Roy Jones, like Evander Holyfield and who knows, maybe even Mayweather. But to turn down a fight over testing? Man.
As for Floyd, Floyd and company also accuses Manny of taking PEDs. That was not a good approach to take unless you don't want to fight Manny. Floyd/GB knew that it would tick off Manny and the chances of the fight happening would be less.
Manny could have played hardball too. He was riding high coming off a better PPV than Floyd and Floyd was just coming out of retirement ....... but Manny didn't. Floyd did what he did to derail negotiations then since then its been roadblocks after roadblocks coming from Floyd. Do you have issues with Floyd's roadblocks like you do with Manny agreeing with extra testing but refusing Floyd's PED rules?
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