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  • Heavyfist
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    #111
    Can drifts out of punches now, instead of lunging into them. There are many small things Khan does now, that he did not do before.

    As for Khan getting caught. Khans masterful performance against Collazo proves otherwise. Those very loopy shots that Khan used to get caught with, not once did he get caught with a similar shot.

    I don't know how Khan Thurman would go, although I think Khan beats him fairly easily actually, but Khan would school Garcia in a rematch.

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    • TheWinners
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      #112
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      I'm not personally judging him by the Bundu performance. I thought he looked OK but he really should have looked spectacular given all the talk he was doing the previous day and considering the fact it was the biggest stage he'd performed on.

      Khan backed up his talk with an impressive performance against Alexander.

      It's about public perception and those were the most eyes that would have viewed Thurman in his entire career....and he didn't deliver. That's what the public will remember. If he'd gone out there and blasted out Bundu like he said he would, then people would get behind him more and there'd be more people saying he and Khan should get it on.

      Instead, he was booed out of the building....
      Are you kidding me? Boxers say lots of ****. It's to build up a fight. It doesn't always happen like they say. Some fighters say they gone get a guy outta there by the 6th round and they end up getting KO'd.

      The point is he has a very high KO percentage granted it's not vs the best comp. But I'd say Soto Karass is a tough fighter with a good chin. He fought Marcos Maidana pretty hard and that was a questionable stop as well. So if he can get a guy outta there like that, yet failed to KO Bundu, what does that mean? Nothing.

      A fighter isn't going to always be able to KO guys. Just how it is. ****ing Manny Pacquiao hasn't got a KO since I can remember. And was just sleeping on the canvas a few fights ago. Whats the public perception of him? Oh that he's going to KO the best ****ing boxer in the world right now. Even though he hasn't had a KO in forever.

      If you or anyone else wants to judge a fighter by public perception so be it. But Im judging Keith based upon his fighting ability. The guy can fight and for you guys saying he hasn't stepped up his comp, I agree. But there's not a lot of guys lining up to face Thurman. It's a high risk fight for them because the guy can punch hard and he would stop their big dream paydays. So they will avoid those kind of fights.

      Look at Broner. This mf talks the most **** and wouldn't even fight John Molina. A guy that was dominated by a to me average fighter in Mickey Bey. A guy who was juicing and isn't an impressive fighter. Yet Broner thought it too risky to fight John Molina because he has punching power. And took the other Molina.

      All you gotta do is box John Molina like Bey did for majority of the fight and you can actually stop him. But this mf must of seen what happen to Mickey Bey and thought it too risky to fight him after getting beat down by Maidana. They just trying to secure a payday. Aint none of these mf's calling Thurman out really because it's too risky to fight a young bull like that. Thurman needs to fight someone noteworthy though assuming these guys don't avoid him. I say go for Porter. If he beat him then he deserves a shot at a title.

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        #113
        Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
        These are just opinions here anyway, but Thurman was jolted hard by Soto Karass, and Karass is no boxer... didn't have a chance with just the big punch. Thurman couldn't stop Bundu a slick boxer with little pop, Chaves was jolting him til the stoppage. He is good, but seems to rely on his power too much and not enough on his boxing ability which is good but not great.

        Khan seems the better, faster boxer... more speed. Makes some mistakes still, but alot less than he did w/Roach. Beat a prime Kotelnik worse than anyone did. Beat a close to prime Pauli with basically speed alone, would have beat Peterson if not for the crappy ref, beat Collazo and Alexander worse than anyone has. And I don't think he would've lost to Danny if not for the big punch. Wasn't it like a shutout before the stoppage? I think he UDs Garcia in a rematch. As for his chin, it just looks like he's more steady and resilient at this weight. Time will tell though.

        Neither fighter has fought the absolute best, but of the 2, I think Khan has edged Thurman out in quality of opponents. It's a matchup I wouldn't mind seeing.
        Man he got dominated by Peterson. And aint punching apart of the game? How many fighters can say " If I didn't get caught by that one punch." Bottom line the mf did get caught. And he always gets caught. And Peterson dominated that guy. If you wanna make an excuse for that fight you can say Peterson was juicing. But he beat the **** out of Kahn. Aint have nothing to do with the ref. He outworked Kahn and dominated him from what I remember.

        Kahn is a **** fighter man period. So what he looked good against Devon Alexander. Who the **** is he? Collazo? Who the **** are these guys? Nothing impressive about it. But what does stick out is him almost being stopped by a journeyman. He still makes the same mistakes he did vs Danny Garcia and Lamont Peterson. And once he gets caught, and he will, he's done. Explains why he been taking easy fights. He's done period.

        These fighters are a bunch of *******. At least Mayweather fights guys with serious KO power. Every ****ing fight it's " this guy can KO Mayweather ". And the same bs after the fight. The guys couldn't land ****. But these guys wanna land a Mayweather fight so they fight weak opposition and then demand Mayweather. Stfu and fight someone real. Devon Alexander aint the gateway to Floyd Mayweather. Neither is Collazo. Come on man. Now Pacquiao doing the same ****. Fighting smaller fighters coming off losses, novices, and pillow punching guys. It's a joke.

        I never liked Danny Garcia that much but Im glad he took the risk and fought Matthyse. He wasn't doing well that fight until he caught Matthyse flush on the eye. That's a part of boxing. But that's like the biggest matchup I've seen get done outside of Rigo vs Doniare and Canelo vs Lara.

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          #114
          I really doubt Khan would fight Thurman. Too much to risk getting that chin cracked again.

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            #115
            Originally posted by TheWinners
            Man he got dominated by Peterson. And aint punching apart of the game? How many fighters can say " If I didn't get caught by that one punch." Bottom line the mf did get caught. And he always gets caught. And Peterson dominated that guy. If you wanna make an excuse for that fight you can say Peterson was juicing. But he beat the **** out of Kahn. Aint have nothing to do with the ref. He outworked Kahn and dominated him from what I remember.

            Kahn is a **** fighter man period. So what he looked good against Devon Alexander. Who the **** is he? Collazo? Who the **** are these guys? Nothing impressive about it. But what does stick out is him almost being stopped by a journeyman. He still makes the same mistakes he did vs Danny Garcia and Lamont Peterson. And once he gets caught, and he will, he's done. Explains why he been taking easy fights. He's done period.

            These fighters are a bunch of *******. At least Mayweather fights guys with serious KO power. Every ****ing fight it's " this guy can KO Mayweather ". And the same bs after the fight. The guys couldn't land ****. But these guys wanna land a Mayweather fight so they fight weak opposition and then demand Mayweather. Stfu and fight someone real. Devon Alexander aint the gateway to Floyd Mayweather. Neither is Collazo. Come on man. Now Pacquiao doing the same ****. Fighting smaller fighters coming off losses, novices, and pillow punching guys. It's a joke.

            I never liked Danny Garcia that much but Im glad he took the risk and fought Matthyse. He wasn't doing well that fight until he caught Matthyse flush on the eye. That's a part of boxing. But that's like the biggest matchup I've seen get done outside of Rigo vs Doniare and Canelo vs Lara.
            he didn't hit matthysse with anything flush until his eye was closed. it was headbutts and an eye poke that closed the eye. it's on video.

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              #116
              Originally posted by TheWinners
              Are you kidding me? Boxers say lots of ****. It's to build up a fight. It doesn't always happen like they say.
              Most of the top fighters back up their talk. You mentioned Pacquiao....really? LOL....the guy is proven over several years and several titles over several divisions. Delivering on the highest stage

              The wider public don't know **** about Keith Thurman. He got his chance to show them what he was about and he talked himself up but failed to back up his words. I hope for his sake that he gets another chance to perform on that stage soon.

              Why would any top fighter face him? No one knows who he is, he has no title and brings no money.

              The one thing he had going for him was his supposed exciting KO style and he absolutely stunk out the MGM on his first big chance. Sorry but he has no one else to blame but himself.

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                #117
                Originally posted by TheWinners
                Man he got dominated by Peterson. And aint punching apart of the game? How many fighters can say " If I didn't get caught by that one punch." Bottom line the mf did get caught. And he always gets caught. And Peterson dominated that guy. If you wanna make an excuse for that fight you can say Peterson was juicing. But he beat the **** out of Kahn. Aint have nothing to do with the ref. He outworked Kahn and dominated him from what I remember.
                Well your memory is clearly ****.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by atomicsad
                  I really doubt Khan would fight Thurman. Too much to risk getting that chin cracked again.
                  yeah thurman would probably get KO'd. they better match thurman safe again like always

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                    #119
                    If Khan is able to box in a disciplined fashion, I'd say he's likely to win a decision, but if Thurman can get just a little piece, he ain't letting him off the hook.

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                      #120
                      It's not that Thurman didn't KO Bundu that was unimpressive, that happens.

                      it's that he ran from him all night and fought a super cautious safety first fight like he was facing GGG on there.

                      Anyway Khan has much bigger fights potentially out there both prestige and money wise, they would all have to fall down before thurman would be considered.

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