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  • Wizardsh
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    #131
    Originally posted by TheWinners
    Everyone started off where Thurman is. He needs the ****ing opportunity first dude. If you gone bury the guy because he didn't KO or have a dominating performance one time then you don't understand the fight game. If you've watched him enough you'd understand he has talent and you'd understand why mf's aint lining up to fight him. It aint cause no one knows him, its because no one wants to get knocked the **** out and lose that big payday.

    And again Kahn is a soft lil *****. He would want no part of Thurman. You can change trainers but that wont help your chin. Plus Hunter is a **** ass trainer. He's a motivational speaker he aint no trainer. Look at Angulo.

    This dude is undefeated and a true welterweight. And got much hype around him. But no one is saying " I'd love to fight Keith Thurman ". Of course not! Its a risky fight. Maidana, Kahn, all them mf's running as far away from his name as possible. Kahn aint **** man.
    Thurman is overrated and the problem is him. He wants to get paid like he is at the top. Without doing nothing. He is a nobody and realy don't see that hype around him like you are saying or skills that people think they are seeing. Thurman is adverage nothing special many fighters like Thurman out thier just adverage

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #132
      Originally posted by Truth.
      He did deliver, he won every round and and boxed beautifully against a tough, tricky veteran, just because a few ******s were booing it doesn't mean otherwise.
      Maybe to you, he delivered but to the public that booed him out the building....nope. Call them ******s but they were the ones paying the admission fee and would they pay to see Thurman again? You need to make those fans want to come back and see you again. He needed to be more exciting and dynamic to make a real statement.

      Originally posted by Truth.
      Top fighters should fight him because he's clearly a threat. Fighting the best and challenging yourself should be in the interest of any fighter, he's a highly rated young fighter, so beating him would get you a lot of recognition and credit. It's not like he's some club fighter who nobody's ever heard of. Also you get good enough money to fight him, he's with Haymon. The likes of Alexander, Porter etc don't bring anymore money to the table than Thurman I don't think.
      Romantic but very unrealistic view.

      What recognition and credit? From a few people on this forum, most of whom won't even pay money to go watch these guys fight?

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      • John Locke
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        #133
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Maybe to you, he delivered but to the public that booed him out the building....nope. Call them ******s but they were the ones paying the admission fee and would they pay to see Thurman again? You need to make those fans want to come back and see you again. He needed to be more exciting and dynamic to make a real statement.



        Romantic but very unrealistic view.

        What recognition and credit? From a few people on this forum, most of whom won't even pay money to go watch these guys fight?
        They are irrelevant and have nothing to do with why people shouldn't fight Thurman, I don't think anyone is gonna lose any sleep over a pack of mongrels booing. They won't come back to see him because they are obviously not fans, I'm sure there are plenty who would pay to see him.

        It's only unrealistic in today's era, people are defending duckers left, right and centre. People have got all kinds of excuses for why fights shouldn't be made. Like why would Maidana pull of a Thurman fight to take on Soto Karass? What is there to gain from that? Or why would Guerrero fight Kamegai instead of Thurman? Are Karass and Kamegai biggers names than Thurman? No. Do they bring more money to the table? No. It's blatant ducking.

        Also I think you overestimate how big a part casual fans have in this, most of them only know a handful of fighters, any real boxing fan knows who Thurman is and anybody who beats him will get lots of credit.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Truth.
          They are irrelevant and have nothing to do with why people shouldn't fight Thurman, I don't think anyone is gonna lose any sleep over a pack of mongrels booing. They won't come back to see him because they are obviously not fans, I'm sure there are plenty who would pay to see him.

          It's only unrealistic in today's era, people are defending duckers left, right and centre. People have got all kinds of excuses for why fights shouldn't be made. Like why would Maidana pull of a Thurman fight to take on Soto Karass? What is there to gain from that? Or why would Guerrero fight Kamegai instead of Thurman? Are Karass and Kamegai biggers names than Thurman? No. Do they bring more money to the table? No. It's blatant ducking.

          Also I think you overestimate how big a part casual fans have in this, most of them only know a handful of fighters, any real boxing fan knows who Thurman is and anybody who beats him will get lots of credit.
          Those "pack of mongrels" paid the admission money to watch the fight. They're the ones paying Thurman's wages and if he doesn't attract casual fans then he isn't getting paid and he isn't getting the attention of the big names. Just the way of the world.

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            #135
            At the end of the day when Thurman gets his chance and hopefully get his win over whoever he would be worse than those that didn't give him any chance.

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            • TheWinners
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              #136
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Those "pack of mongrels" paid the admission money to watch the fight. They're the ones paying Thurman's wages and if he doesn't attract casual fans then he isn't getting paid and he isn't getting the attention of the big names. Just the way of the world.
              Who cares? People are going to boo. That's the nature of the business. You think because people boo the guy's fight that no top fighter should fight him?

              Do you think the guy has talent? Is he an undefeated fighter? Is he one of the top young welterweights? If not who is? You're not making any valid arguments or points here. The guy is one of the top young welterweights in the sport. And I believe he would've stepped up his comp next fight if not for his injury. So that's why you fight him. And Im sure he brings some money to the table.

              Like I said before, mf's not lining up to fight him because they scared to get KO'd and lose that big payday they dreaming for.
              Im waiting for someone to come out and say " Id love to fight Thurman ". That aint gone happen because he's too dangerous of a fight for them. When Broner was moving up to Welterweight why you think he fought a bunch of non punching guys? Soon as he fought a puncher in Maidana he got exposed. Then when he came back no punchers for him. Avoided John Molina. They scared that's why.

              I'd love to see Kahn vs Thurman, Thurman vs Porter. Thurman vs any top name. But guys aint lining up to fight a dangerous fighter.

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                #137
                I still think that Thurman would beat him but I dont really have a problem with Khan not taking this fight.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by TheWinners
                  Who cares? People are going to boo. That's the nature of the business. You think because people boo the guy's fight that no top fighter should fight him?

                  Do you think the guy has talent? Is he an undefeated fighter? Is he one of the top young welterweights? If not who is? You're not making any valid arguments or points here. The guy is one of the top young welterweights in the sport. And I believe he would've stepped up his comp next fight if not for his injury. So that's why you fight him. And Im sure he brings some money to the table.

                  Like I said before, mf's not lining up to fight him because they scared to get KO'd and lose that big payday they dreaming for.
                  Im waiting for someone to come out and say " Id love to fight Thurman ". That aint gone happen because he's too dangerous of a fight for them. When Broner was moving up to Welterweight why you think he fought a bunch of non punching guys? Soon as he fought a puncher in Maidana he got exposed. Then when he came back no punchers for him. Avoided John Molina. They scared that's why.

                  I'd love to see Kahn vs Thurman, Thurman vs Porter. Thurman vs any top name. But guys aint lining up to fight a dangerous fighter.
                  That's because they have no reason to fight him. He brings nothing to the table yet. I am making valid points, you're just too myopic in your love for Thurman to see sense.

                  Fighters don't just fight for the hell of it or to please forum nerds. You've got to give top fighters something to gain.

                  No one knows who Thurman is so if you beat him, then who cares? Yeah maybe YOU care and I care and a few people on this forum care but the general public don't give a *** about this guy yet.

                  And then there's the hypejob element. Beat Thurman right now and people will say he was a hypejob who looked average against Bundu.

                  Beating him has to mean something.

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                  • TheWinners
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    That's because they have no reason to fight him. He brings nothing to the table yet. I am making valid points, you're just too myopic in your love for Thurman to see sense.

                    Fighters don't just fight for the hell of it or to please forum nerds. You've got to give top fighters something to gain.

                    No one knows who Thurman is so if you beat him, then who cares? Yeah maybe YOU care and I care and a few people on this forum care but the general public don't give a *** about this guy yet.

                    And then there's the hypejob element. Beat Thurman right now and people will say he was a hypejob who looked average against Bundu.

                    Beating him has to mean something.
                    Can you answer my question? Who is at the top of the Welterweight division? Who are the best contenders in that division? Who did Amir Kahn beat in the division that holds any weight? What you seem to keep ignoring is the fact that fighters are running from Thurman! It's not that they have nothing to gain. It's that they don't wanna get KO'd and lose a big payday.

                    He's a real threat to anyone in the Welterweight division even though he hasn't blew up yet. So you keep saying he hasn't beaten anyone. Well that's because no one wants to fight a guy who's young, can knock you out, and can move and box. Then you're talking about a beer drinking audience booing his performance as if that holds much weight. Come on man. Those aren't valid points.

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by TheWinners
                      Can you answer my question? Who is at the top of the Welterweight division? Who are the best contenders in that division? Who did Amir Kahn beat in the division that holds any weight? What you seem to keep ignoring is the fact that fighters are running from Thurman! It's not that they have nothing to gain. It's that they don't wanna get KO'd and lose a big payday.

                      He's a real threat to anyone in the Welterweight division even though he hasn't blew up yet. So you keep saying he hasn't beaten anyone. Well that's because no one wants to fight a guy who's young, can knock you out, and can move and box. Then you're talking about a beer drinking audience booing his performance as if that holds much weight. Come on man. Those aren't valid points.
                      Even if they are "running away" from him. There's NO REASON to "run to" him.

                      He brings NOTHING to the table. No belt, no following, no money. ZERO.

                      So lets just fight a guy because forum geeks want you to....

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