Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser Not Giving Up on Mayweather Fight

[smoothsmg]

What does highest payday have to do with it ? How is it relivent to how much this Fight makes ?

My your logic if de la Hoya cam out of retirement to fight GGG he would get $100mil to gggs $2mil.

I have not at one point talked about how much they fight could/would make. I have been talking about this supposed 200 million guarantee that has been discussed on this board. We have seen actual checks of Floyds guaranteed money, while nsac has said manny would receive a check for 6 million. So his extra 20 million, who knows where that comes from. My whole discussion has been based around this supposed 200 million guarantee that has floated this board , and all i have stated is that if it is true then they should just both double their highest pay day. That would be the most logical thing.

As far as your de la Hoya comment, I am dealing with the here and now. Oscar has not fought in ten years so him and triple g would not have a guaranteed 102 million. Let's deal with reality please if we are gling to have an adult conversation.

[smoothsmg]

As for your logic, it just doesn't add up.

Floyd's PPVs was also dependent on the opponents, dates that he fought and there were a few times where his undercard helped generate interest.

Your approach is too simplistic and not an accurate way to judge how it should be split.

Yes my logic is simplistic but if that does not work, then open the books.

Honestly, Floyd (and golden boy) putting on good undergrads and fighting "better" opponents is how it should be. So that is something that you can't fault him for. He produced the better show that drew interest.

[smoothsmg]

As for your logic, it just doesn't add up.

Floyd's PPVs was also dependent on the opponents, dates that he fought and there were a few times where his undercard helped generate interest.

Your approach is too simplistic and not an accurate way to judge how it should be split.

Here, let's do this a different way. Since you feel my way is too simplistic, what would be your best scenario for a 200 million guarantee pot? Floyd has done better in highest pay day, Floyd has done better at live gate, floyd has done better in ppv buys. How would you split up the 200 million and why? I stated I felt the guarantee should be based off their highest payday and doubled. If we want to go off highest guaranteed money, then the books need to be opened since the nsac states manny only saw a 6 million dollar check in I believe a few fights. So tell me what you feel.

[Spoon23]

Its not the money , its the respect. 160/40 is a disrespectful offer.

Precisely, low balling a business associate is a no no in business. That in itself is disrespectful. It's as if to say fuvk off or eat shiiit and die.

No one wants to be low balled. it is like eating a dead rodent cruel and disrespectful, but these flowtards don't get it.

Floyd is pricing himself out of the game. To scared for his true weakness the best southpaw in the game.

[Furn]

I have not at one point talked about how much they fight could/would make. I have been talking about this supposed 200 million guarantee that has been discussed on this board. We have seen actual checks of Floyds guaranteed money, while nsac has said manny would receive a check for 6 million. So his extra 20 million, who knows where that comes from. My whole discussion has been based around this supposed 200 million guarantee that has floated this board , and all i have stated is that if it is true then they should just both double their highest pay day. That would be the most logical thing.

As far as your de la Hoya comment, I am dealing with the here and now. Oscar has not fought in ten years so him and triple g would not have a guaranteed 102 million. Let's deal with reality please if we are gling to have an adult conversation.

Why is that logical ? You haven't explained it ?

You understand what a guarantee is right and where that money comes from ?

[ADP02]

Yes my logic is simplistic but if that does not work, then open the books.

Honestly, Floyd (and golden boy) putting on good undergrads and fighting "better" opponents is how it should be. So that is something that you can't fault him for. He produced the better show that drew interest.

Here, let's do this a different way. Since you feel my way is too simplistic, what would be your best scenario for a 200 million guarantee pot? Floyd has done better in highest pay day, Floyd has done better at live gate, floyd has done better in ppv buys. How would you split up the 200 million and why? I stated I felt the guarantee should be based off their highest payday and doubled. If we want to go off highest guaranteed money, then the books need to be opened since the nsac states manny only saw a 6 million dollar check in I believe a few fights. So tell me what you feel.

Not exactly.

It proves that the opponent is why Floyd's numbers were higher not really due to Floyd. Same goes with the date and the undercard. You should understand that.



In 2009, Manny was on a high and was the highest PPV attraction. He had just fought Oscar, Hatton and Cotto. This while Floyd was retired and then fought Marquez. At that point, many were concerned that Manny would be playing hard ball like Floyd is doing now. Marquez vs Floyd hadn't done as good as Cotto fight and Manny also had 2 other big fights.

Did you say the same back then for Floyd when he was going to get 50/50 after coming out of retirement? I don't think so.

What is a good deal? One where it looks like both sides are making serious offers where the other side does not feel like they are getting the short end of the stick and then they finally come to an agreement.

Floyd himself said on Showtime recently that Manny shouldn't even expect to get the $40 million offer that was made back in 2012. So that is not what I want to hear from Floyd. Floyd should have said that they would try to negotiate a fair deal..

[Pago007]

Fair deal similar too floyd vs oscar - tbe should get double whatever pac gets

[jbpanama]

Not exactly.

It proves that the opponent is why Floyd's numbers were higher not really due to Floyd. Same goes with the date and the undercard. You should understand that.



In 2009, Manny was on a high and was the highest PPV attraction. He had just fought Oscar, Hatton and Cotto. This while Floyd was retired and then fought Marquez. At that point, many were concerned that Manny would be playing hard ball like Floyd is doing now. Marquez vs Floyd hadn't done as good as Cotto fight and Manny also had 2 other big fights.

Did you say the same back then for Floyd when he was going to get 50/50 after coming out of retirement? I don't think so.

What is a good deal? One where it looks like both sides are making serious offers where the other side does not feel like they are getting the short end of the stick and then they finally come to an agreement.

Floyd himself said on Showtime recently that Manny shouldn't even expect to get the $40 million offer that was made back in 2012. So that is not what I want to hear from Floyd. Floyd should have said that they would try to negotiate a fair deal..

It was Canelo, that drew big #'s.....
To get to fight FRAUD, he refused to fight on any more Fraud Under Cards...

Seems the PPV buying public, is getting Hep, to Our Hero, and his Avoiding tough Fights..

The suits, at the Networks, might go for Cotto, but want Pac...Is FRAUD Boxed In???

[smoothsmg]

Why is that logical ? You haven't explained it ?

You understand what a guarantee is right and where that money comes from ?

Once again, I am referring to this 200 million guarantee that was supposedly going to the two fighters. That's all i have discussed. It does not matter how that money is distributed from there. We are discussing guaranteed walking in the ring money. Floyd usually walks into the ring with a 32 million guarantee while manny gets 26 (though the nsac has stated otherwise). All I have talked about is the fighters guarantee, nothing else.

[jbpanama]

There was no agenda. Since you hoped that 90/50 doesn't happen then for that to be the case and for you to say that it was a bad deal for Floyd then naturally "truly hope 90/50 does not happen", Floyd would have to not accept.

So I asked you the question. You responded by saying that you are OK if Floyd agrees ..... I responded ..... np.

Wonder if this Smooth cat is paid by the Word...
Nobody should spew this Nonsense, for Free...

Why exactly is this CHUMP, so concerned about
what Manny Makes???

This Cat probably washes Our Hero's Cars, when
he's not engaged in spreading this ****** Propaganda...