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  • flat1985
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    #21
    Originally posted by HanzGruber
    This is pathetic. People are complaining about Floyd possibly fighting cotto while pic is fighting algieri and vargas
    There both **** fights

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    • texasboi15
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      #22
      Originally posted by jjsmyth87
      When you guys hear about any negotiations fir Vargas then you guys can hate, because right now Vargas is just like amir khan calling out pacquiao and getting no response. Neither pacquiao or roach has mentioned his name as a possible opponent. Arum has said he will be on the plan b list but so are many other more qualified fighters
      Pacquiao and Roach have no say in who Manny fights lol

      He fights who Bob Arum tells him too.

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      • WESS
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        #23
        Originally posted by jjsmyth87
        Adonis Stevenson is lineal lhw champ, and ebryone knows hes not the king of the divisio. So who cares about that? George foreman was lineal hw champ in the 90s without ever facing any of the best competition. Floyd is lineal champ at welterweight yet has ducked pacquiao for years. Lineal champ doesn't mean anything when you are not willing to face the best opposition. Pacquiao is not fighting Vargas whether or not he faces mayweather.
        Still doesn't change the fact that Pac has never been the lineal Champion in a weight class he has been fighting at for 6 years. Which is due in part because of his selection of opposition.

        However, like you mentioned I doubt this fight happens. BUT it would be right on par with his previous selections. So I wouldn't be surprised but nobody should be betting on it to happen.

        Originally posted by Sterling Archer
        totally irrelevant point.
        Not when fighter A is a welter weight and fighter B is not. You can't become a lineal Champion at 147 when you don't fight guys who actually fight and win at 147. Like Vargas for example. Let a lone his actual selection of opposition over the years that move up in weight to get the fight.

        Originally posted by radiotracer
        It's because floyds been ducking him.
        Don't you mean, "it's because" Pac ducked The lineal Welter Weight Champion Shane Mosley?

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        • WESS
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          #24
          Originally posted by HanzGruber
          This is pathetic. People are complaining about Floyd possibly fighting cotto while pic is fighting algieri and vargas
          They complain no matter who it is, especially after the fact when proven wrong.

          At the end of the day, this fight won't happen. But it is on par with Pac's selection of opposition. Still, don't bet on it to happen.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #25
            It's probably not fair to dislike Vargas, but I do. All the ****ing gifts he's gotten combined with the possibility of him getting a Pac fight is affecting my opinion of him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WESS
              Don't you mean, "it's because" Pac ducked The lineal Welter Weight Champion Shane Mosley?

              He sure did because Roach said Mosley was too good after Margarito. Saw the video when Roach said he asked Mosley if he could make 142/143 and he was not Oscar to get the fight at 147 because he was better and he had to protect Pacquiao.

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              • texasboi15
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                #27
                Please stop blaming Emmanuel Pacquiao for opponents such as Algieri and Vargas. He does not have a say in the opponents selected for him to fight.

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                • SterlingStained
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by texasboi15
                  Please stop blaming Emmanuel Pacquiao for opponents such as Algieri and Vargas. He does not have a say in the opponents selected for him to fight.
                  yes he does.

                  please stop that false narrative. both floyd and manny have complete control of who they fight and they use the whole al haymon bob arum i fight who they tell me to fight to hide from tough questions.

                  stop the bull****.

                  when you are the only crown ***el ppv star for both stables, you call the shots. which is what floyd and manny are.

                  this whole al haymon bob arum are the ones deciding are PURE DOGBULL****.

                  these two guys are not some gate keepers. they aree the only ppv stars of the sport.

                  they decide who they fight nobody else.

                  they and the fans like you only use that its up to the promoter bull**** to deflect criticism for their ****ty choices.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                    He sure did because Roach said Mosley was too good after Margarito. Saw the video when Roach said he asked Mosley if he could make 142/143 and he was not Oscar to get the fight at 147 because he was better and he had to protect Pacquiao.
                    I'm sure everyone remembers quit well. Many people just choose to ignore the fact because Floyd beat the guy that he was supposed to be so super scared of.

                    I was just happy to see that Mosley finally got his tooth taken care of.

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                    • SterlingStained
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WESS


                      Not when fighter A is a welter weight and fighter B is not. You can't become a lineal Champion at 147 when you don't fight guys who actually fight and win at 147. Like Vargas for example. Let a lone his actual selection of opposition over the years that move up in weight to get the fight.
                      what weight class did manny start in?
                      what weight class did floyd start in?

                      totally irrelevant point.

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