Do you consider Marquez's KO Victory over Pacquiao...

[TOBYLEE1]

Marquez KOed him with that tactic they had planned. He is a smart fighter and adjusts to what is in front of him.

But his training and all the muscles alongside with the power does gives it a lil credibility problem. On the flip side he looked just as strong in their third fight

[HEND]

You should just named the second option "I'm a sour loser and I can't admit that Pac simply just got KTFO by JMM."

[ADP02]

why are you talking Floyd/Manny this is about JMM/Manny?

Manny asked JMM to test, JMM said sure, If you do as well. Manny said no and then rescinded the request for testing.

JMM and Manny both passed the regular commission tests. Whenever Manny passed these tests after previous fights, you and other Pac fans cited this as proof Manny was clean. Yet for JMM it's different.

Why do you and other Pac fans have such a double standard?

I brought up Manny/Floyd since his comment came from those discussions. Just like you did with your silly line that they both passed the commission tests.

You still don't get the issues. Floyd either used it as a psychological advantage over Manny or now we know the real reason is that Floyd just put it out as a roadblock to stop the fight from happening.

Very few people said that they didn't want any testing. We wanted to see the fight. Remember the poll? Manny fans were hoping that Manny agreed to 14 day cutoff date so you fail.

After a few months Manny agreed to 14 then 7 then random testing. What happened? No fight.


The difference with Marquez is MEMO. Not hard to understand. He admitted to giving it to many athletes and was proud about doing it and thinks its still a good thing since it levels the playing field. It gives you what you don't have. Marquez didn't knock Manny down once in 3 fights then does it not once but twice in the 4th fight? Then we see him with acne at 40 something?

Memo probably told Marquez not to worry because he can easily mask the PEDs so that commissions or USADA can be beaten easily.

As for Marquez agreeing, he agreed after the contracts were signed. Try to get something resolved including all the particulars, good luck with that!

So the double standards, as you put it, is coming from the Floyd fans who were su****ious of Manny but who in this poll are indicating that they have zero su****ions about the 40 year old acne filled Marquez who has an admitted cheat in his corner.

[Larry the boss]

this is just dumb

[Johnwoo8686]

This line is the irony in all this but people seem to think that Manny and his fans deserve this but in fact they shouldn't. If you go back to the original negotiations, Manny did accept extra testing. Random urine testing was agreed upon and blood test up to 3 weeks from the fight. Floyd/Manny were about 1 week apart with their agreed cutoffs.

Secondly, when there was a poll a majority of those who polled agreed that Manny should have agreed to 14 days cutoff just to get the fight on. This included many Manny fans.


Funny or the irony in all this is that the people who had been demanding for random testing are the ones that don't give a sh$t.

So to pull that line that you did may appear to be right because of a quote out of many quotes, but its far from it.

A cut off date is not random testing.

[Dr.Pepper]

Why isn't "roids+great technician" an option?

Pac's on roids so that makes it even.

Manny got bit by his own dog.

[Dr.Pepper]

A cut off date is not random testing.

you will never get them to understand that simple fact.

[The Big Dunn]

I brought up Manny/Floyd since his comment came from those discussions. Just like you did with your silly line that they both passed the commission tests.

You still don't get the issues. Floyd either used it as a psychological advantage over Manny or now we know the real reason is that Floyd just put it out as a roadblock to stop the fight from happening.

Very few people said that they didn't want any testing. We wanted to see the fight. Remember the poll? Manny fans were hoping that Manny agreed to 14 day cutoff date so you fail.

After a few months Manny agreed to 14 then 7 then random testing. What happened? No fight.


The difference with Marquez is MEMO. Not hard to understand. He admitted to giving it to many athletes and was proud about doing it and thinks its still a good thing since it levels the playing field. It gives you what you don't have. Marquez didn't knock Manny down once in 3 fights then does it not once but twice in the 4th fight? Then we see him with acne at 40 something?

Memo probably told Marquez not to worry because he can easily mask the PEDs so that commissions or USADA can be beaten easily.

As for Marquez agreeing, he agreed after the contracts were signed. Try to get something resolved including all the particulars, good luck with that!

So the double standards, as you put it, is coming from the Floyd fans who were su****ious of Manny but who in this poll are indicating that they have zero su****ions about the 40 year old acne filled Marquez who has an admitted cheat in his corner.

This thread is about jmm v Manny. There is no need to mention Floyd's name as he wasn't involved in any way.

If you considered Manny clean since he passed the tests, than you must consider jmm clean as well. If you think otherwise, the same applies to Manny.

Sorry dude, you can't type your way out of hypocrisy. One could argue Manny said no to testing because he was dirty or planned to use just as easily as you argue jmm had undetectable PED's.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I've been a huge fan of Marquez for years and thought he got jobbed every time against Pacquiao. I was delighted at the time to see him finally get a decisive win but I've got to admit that over time, it's become very clouded in my mind.

[StopCrying...]

simple! it only proves Memo Heredia(jmm's conditioning coach) is really a PED genius. every fighter under his service should be VADA tested.

its timing & newly found power

haters gonna hate just the love for floyd LOL, thses ppl are not really jmm fans. iam a JMM fan for his skills but now for me he is just a cheat, a hack in boxing

a Mexican Hulk or Mexican Hack

Chest Acne KO killer at age 40.