Wladimir Klitschko has now gone from underrated to overrated. Same as many athletes.

[Szef]

He's good at jabbing and cheating, that's about it.

Klitschko is overrated, doe.

[LacedUp]

If anything, he's underrated.

*waiting for LacedUp to show up with my favorite line of his: "I actually like Wlad, BUT..."*

Lol didn't even see this

I think I get a bad rep for whatever I say about Klitschko. I don't hate him at all, I do dislike his fanboys though. But that's more hate towards fanboys than hate towards Klitschko himself.

You'll see me in threads with other fighters who have ridiculous fanboys like Khan, who I'm a fan of, telling them what I think.

Like people saying Mormeck was better than Foreman or Sam Peter is better than Joe Frazier, or Byrd would beat Ali, just to build up Wlad's resume. I mean, that's just ridiculous.

he doesnt like wlad.......... im 98 percent sure of this, lol,bull**** he likes wlad, he doesnt have too but theres no reason he should be saying he does if he doesnt, lol, he should come out and say with balls and say what he really wants to say, lol, i do not know any reason to hate wlad , i respect wlad, dont like him or hate him but he is a class act for boxing, lol, anybody that is afraid to speak their minds are ****in cowards in my opinion, lol, he might unresonably hate wlad but only he knows the truth, lol, many of my fellow americans say wlad is overated and im sure its probably because of skin color, lol, there can be white and black champions but if youve done something for 10 years in boxing that not much have accomplished, then you must be great in some way, wlad is definitely a great lol

I don't really think I've ever said I liked him, but I've said I respect him. At 38 or whatever, still doing his thing, you've got to respect that. But I didn't see anywhere that says you have to be a fan of anyone.

He's got a pretty good personality too.

I find his style incredibly boring. What more is there to say? Should I say I find his style appealing when I don't? I don't think so. I also don't think the guys he's fighting are anything special, but I've also said numerous times that I don't think it's his fault and to his credit he's generally fought the guys he needed to. I don't think there's too many heavies over the years he didn't fight, who the public wanted him to fight. That doesn't really make the opponents better.

lol at the ****ing coward remark I've always been upfront with my feelings towards him. And please don't try and sly the racist thing on me or when you speak about me, you'll make yourself look foolish.

You know it, I know it, anybody who has ever read his posts knows it too. Too bad he doesn't.

And I'm not trying to clown him or anything, because he's my friend and I like him, but he hates Wladimir Klitschko.

I don't hate him at all Come on. Hate is a strong word.

Why is it too bad? Everyone doesn't have the same taste, and I like someone who wants to fight. That's just my taste.

[Tha_Greatest]

Lol didn't even see this

I think I get a bad rep for whatever I say about Klitschko. I don't hate him at all, I do dislike his fanboys though. But that's more hate towards fanboys than hate towards Klitschko himself.

You'll see me in threads with other fighters who have ridiculous fanboys like Khan, who I'm a fan of, telling them what I think.

Like people saying Mormeck was better than Foreman or Sam Peter is better than Joe Frazier, or Byrd would beat Ali, just to build up Wlad's resume. I mean, that's just ridiculous.



I don't really think I've ever said I liked him, but I've said I respect him. At 38 or whatever, still doing his thing, you've got to respect that. But I didn't see anywhere that says you have to be a fan of anyone.

He's got a pretty good personality too.

I find his style incredibly boring. What more is there to say? Should I say I find his style appealing when I don't? I don't think so. I also don't think the guys he's fighting are anything special, but I've also said numerous times that I don't think it's his fault and to his credit he's generally fought the guys he needed to. I don't think there's too many heavies over the years he didn't fight, who the public wanted him to fight. That doesn't really make the opponents better.

lol at the ****ing coward remark I've always been upfront with my feelings towards him. And please don't try and sly the racist thing on me or when you speak about me, you'll make yourself look foolish.



I don't hate him at all Come on. Hate is a strong word.

Why is it too bad? Everyone doesn't have the same taste, and I like someone who wants to fight. That's just my taste.

so you think i personally called you a rascist, lol, well then , lol, thats your problem, lol, im pretty sure you really arent upfront of your feelings but you do respect wlad, lol, you shouldnt react hostile over my opinion towards you, lol, i might be wrong about you, only you know but i wouldnt give 2 ****s about being called a *******, a piece of sh11t, lol, a rascist, lol, only you and i would know the facts about ourselves, lol, like i said, you shouldnt be afraid to say what you feel, lol, if you dont like me, i dont care, lol, i dont hate you or like you either, lol, you just give false sygnals with phrasing with your views on klit, lol, your homie believes this and the hostile reaction towards my opinion(only a opinion) gives some support to his claims, you take it easy

[Szef]

so you think i personally called you a rascist, lol, well then , lol, thats your problem, lol, im pretty sure you really arent upfront of your feelings but you do respect wlad, lol, you shouldnt react hostile over my opinion towards you, lol, i might be wrong about you, only you know but i wouldnt give 2 ****s about being called a *******, a piece of sh11t, lol, a rascist, lol, only you and i would know the facts about ourselves, lol, like i said, you shouldnt be afraid to say what you feel, lol, if you dont like me, i dont care, lol, i dont hate you or like you either, lol, you just give false sygnals with phrasing with your views on klit, lol, your homie believes this and the hostile reaction towards my opinion(only a opinion) gives some support to his claims, you take it easy

I like this guy.

[Tha_Greatest]

I like this guy.

i dont like you but i respect that, lol i dont know you but i feel you are a logical poster, lol, i could still be wrong, about you being logical but i sense that you are, lol, peace

[LacedUp]

so you think i personally called you a rascist, lol, well then , lol, thats your problem, lol, im pretty sure you really arent upfront of your feelings but you do respect wlad, lol, you shouldnt react hostile over my opinion towards you, lol, i might be wrong about you, only you know but i wouldnt give 2 ****s about being called a *******, a piece of sh11t, lol, a rascist, lol, only you and i would know the facts about ourselves, lol, like i said, you shouldnt be afraid to say what you feel, lol, if you dont like me, i dont care, lol, i dont hate you or like you either, lol, you just give false sygnals with phrasing with your views on klit, lol, your homie believes this and the hostile reaction towards my opinion(only a opinion) gives some support to his claims, you take it easy

No I didn't say that. But it's like innuendo. You place a picture of a pedophile next to a person on the front page of a newspaper and you're likely to get your arse sued. I also said "or talking about me", because you were talking about me hating Klitschko and in the next sentence said you think a lot of general hate has to do with the colour of his skin.

I didn't react hostile at all? I just said you shouldn't do that.

What false signals? I'm being completely honest, how is that giving false signals?

[mathed]

overated is a opinion, just like floyd is overated, i can also sense you dont wanna show respect to wlad based off you starting off your post with your personal opinion on wlad, wlad is a all time great, so is floyds cowardly azz but if you wanna act like you dont have a agenda, just comment with fact and dont state opinion, lol, i have a agenda against floyd cuz he hasnt faced the best possible opponents out there for so many reasons, im not a ****in klit fan but at least hes tried to give us his best against the talent or non talent available today

My thoughts are that there aren't any higher classes to toss guys into. By that, I mean that he is a GIANT and he could conceivably fight against a guy like say Adamek who is not anywhere near that stature of Wlad and realistically, has little to no chance to beat him.

That being said, there are now a few guys out there that can match up to him physically but even so, maybe not technically. Had he been so dominant in a smaller weight class, I think he would have been much more popular, much like GGG. I see a lot of people claim that he isn't popular because he is Russian (Ukrainian), this simply isn't true at all. Look at Golovkin or Kovalev, Americans love to watch these guys fight. I just think that Wlad's size gives him so many advantages over much of his opposition that it overshadows many of the exciting aspects of a knockout win for him.

Now, if he were to fight maybe Fury or the Stiverne/Wilder winner, that would make for great action because those guys (mainly Wilder and Fury) are close to Wlad's size and could make for a potentially competitive matchup. Obviously, Wlad can't help the fact that he and his brother were born giants but it does detract an amount from their due credit and respect, imo.

[Tha_Greatest]

No I didn't say that. But it's like innuendo. You place a picture of a pedophile next to a person on the front page of a newspaper and you're likely to get your arse sued. I also said "or talking about me", because you were talking about me hating Klitschko and in the next sentence said you think a lot of general hate has to do with the colour of his skin.

I didn't react hostile at all? I just said you shouldn't do that.

What false signals? I'm being completely honest, how is that giving false signals?

i could go with that, like i said, at least im positive you respect klitschko, respect has to be earned and 10 years does give reason for meriting respect to klitscko, lol, to me the biggest things are loyalty and respect, lol, if i were a klit fan, i would be loyal fanwise till my dying days, lol, since i am not a wlad fan, lol, i respect him the way i know you do, , peace

[LacedUp]

i could go with that, like i said, at least im positive you respect klitschko, respect has to be earned and 10 years does give reason for meriting respect to klitscko, lol, to me the biggest things are loyalty and respect, lol, if i were a klit fan, i would be loyal fanwise till my dying days, lol, since i am not a wlad fan, lol, i respect him the way i know you do, , peace

he's earned respect. Undoubtedly.

Well, I think a proper fan will hold him to ransom over fighting subpar opposition and not always glorify whatever he does. That's the difference between a fan and a fanboy.

I swear, if Klitschko took a blue crap, some posters on this forum would try and convince you that's the way it's supposed to look.

[Elroy1]

It's now becoming increasingly clear that Wladimir is the greatest HW who ever lived.

It was unimaginable how any boxer would be able to top LEnnox Lewis but in the very next generation it seems to have been done.

Completely transformed boxing from a scrap to a game of chess.

Tore down the very foundations of boxing and rebuilt them in his own image.

THIS time, I think we will have a pretty long wait until somebody tops him.

The bar has been raised extremely high now.