Comments Thread For: Roach Admits Pacquiao Fumble in First Mayweather Talks

[kej718]

From that arcticle
"He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope.""
-Dan Rafael

Here is Schaefer saying the same thing about Arum dancing around May 5th to avoid Floyd.

"The fact is, he doesn't want to do the fight. Look what happened. When Pacquiao fought his last fight, we said Mayweather was going to fight on May 5, and Arum said pacquiao wasn't going to be available, it would have to be in June.
Then, when it looked like Mayweather wasn't going to be available in May, suddenly, Pacquiao was going to fight in May. And now, suddenly, Mayweather is going to fight in May, guess what? Pacquiao isn't available until June." -Richard Schaefer
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=530612

And it looks like Arum doing the same thing this time around having an issue with May 2nd with another lame excuse and the Pac fans supporting it blindly.

it's not going to change anyones opinion though. People will believe what they want even though there are plenty of facts to back it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2wNW8Q_17g
Dan Rafeal even said it when it happenend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwhjPoMdtvE
7 minutes in

[peplz]

Break??? You mean retire, Floyd said he didn't love boxing anymore and wanted to focus on promotion then comes back 2 years later haha. In your mind if a fighter retires his spot on the p4p list should be reserved just in case he comes back gtfo of here. Floyd retired Pacquiao looked like a machine when he was gone that's Floyds fault not Pacqauio's if Floyd didn't want to lose his spot don't retire or earn your way back to the top.

What does anything I said have to do with Floyd losing his spot? He certainly got it back when he returned. And the ring definitely did not want to give it back. He took it back. Retired, took a break, took a dump it's just semantics. I couldn't careless what words you use to describe it. And I don't get your point. Manny Pacquiao didn't beat Mayweather to become pound for pound. It was just given to him because of whoever else he fought. That's all I'm saying.

[littlemac]

it's not going to change anyones opinion though. People will believe what they want even though there are plenty of facts to back it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2wNW8Q_17g
Dan Rafeal even said it when it happenend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwhjPoMdtvE
7 minutes in

Your right. It's obvious and the facts are every where, but at the end the Pac fan's have condition themselves to see Manny fault free of all accounts.

[ADP02]

From that arcticle
"He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was ganted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope.""
-Dan Rafael

Here is Schaefer saying the same thing about Arum dancing around May 5th to avoid Floyd.

"The fact is, he doesn't want to do the fight. Look what happened. When Pacquiao fought his last fight, we said Mayweather was going to fight on May 5, and Arum said pacquiao wasn't going to be available, it would have to be in June.
Then, when it looked like Mayweather wasn't going to be available in May, suddenly, Pacquiao was going to fight in May. And now, suddenly, Mayweather is going to fight in May, guess what? Pacquiao isn't available until June." -Richard Schaefer
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=530612

And it looks like Arum doing the same thing this time around having an issue with May 2nd with another lame excuse and the Pac fans supporting it blindly.

Poor Floyd fans are having a hard time finding articles where Arum said it can be done in May. Same with articles of Manny saying inMay but not on Floyd's "I want All PPV money"

If we knew about Floyd's roadblock got sure Arum knew about it much before we did.

It's just too bad though that Floyd fans can't find those articles. If they did, I'm sure they would bring it up.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

No its just you chose not to understand the sarcasm in what he's saying.

Very emotionally he discusses how his health comes first and that is sarcasm? Damn man you got some low pickups.

[ADP02]

Manny Pacquiao agreed to do an interview on ESPN and claim that he had agreed to testing after he had walked away from the actual negotiations. How can he claim to have agreed to anything after he ended negotiations because he didn't agree? How can he even negotiate when he has an open law suit against the person that he claims to have agreed with? He just claims to have agreed to all of Mayweathers demands and that he doesn't know why the fight hasn't happened yet to the media while actually not making any effort at all to make the fight happen.

Canelo got out boxed and it had nothing to do with weight. He came in the ring that night with a significant weight advantage also. So you can't pick and choose which things about the weight you want to harp on without acknowledging the entire picture.

Maidana is a blatantly dirty fighter that got caught trying to cheat but because it's Mayweather we have people like you making excuses for him

Sergio Martinez is a middleweight. Nuff said.

I would have loved to see Mayweather fight Paul Williams. But this is a total hindsight fight that the boxing community never talked about until well after Williams was no longer a welterweight. So miss me with the revisionist's history.

He didn't fight Margarito because he left Top Rank to fight a better opponent who was the undisputed world welterweight champion instead in Carlos Baldomir which lead to De la Hoya and the story goes on which lead to him becoming the highest paid athelete in the world

Manny: Floyd said that all Manny had to do is accept Floyd's PEDs testing and we have a fight. Floyd admitted to this. Did we have fight? No. Did Floyd continue to put roadblocks? Yes. Did Floyd finally stop with his road locks to fight 2015 version of Manny? No

Floyd is looking for a version of Manny that will not do too much damage. Health comes first.

Canelo: Why put a CW when they both have titles At 154?
Health comes first

Maidana: well your response shows that you don't know what's up. Floyd didnt even want Maidana to wear approved gloves. Health comes first

Sergio Martinez called him out when he was at 154 or had just moved up to 160 because he wasn't getting any good fights at 154 not because he outgrew 154. Martinez said that he would even drop to lower than 154 to make a fight with Floyd. Health comes first.

Williams said that a fight was just a phone call away as they both were under Al Haymon. Williams said that Floyd doesn't want the fight.

Margarito: even objective Floyd fans know that Floyd avoided Margarito. Floyd years later said that he didnt want to fight Margarito because he always felt something su****ious about him. That meant , health comes first.

[OutClassed]

its funny u guys still living in the past, Move ON floydfans its almost 2015 now

[littlemac]

its funny u guys still living in the past, Move ON floydfans its almost 2015 now

Actually the funny thing is that the pac fan's are once again dancing to Bob's good all old tune why May is no good.

[littlemac]

Oh so May 2nd is the only sticking point right now? How about Floyd saying TR/PAC isn't even getting the 40 million now? And that it has to be "exclusively" on SHO. But let's just forget about that right?

So even if May 2nd was a go, he is still "offering" them peanuts. So the fight wouldn't be any closer to getting made.

The networks, even according to Arum, have already worked it out. THe only issue at hand is the date in which Arum seems to have an issue with. Arum has yet to give a valid excuse why May 2nd is not a good date, and I don't understand why Pac fans continue to give Arum room to push the fight back further down How are they suppose to negotiation figures if Arum is not even ok with the date? Has Arum even suggested a date? All Arum says is May is once again no good and disappears into the dark. Atleast Floy is again calling them out on a specific date and venue and Arum is just rejecting. Am not even saying Manny is the one rejecting it so please don't get too sensative about it. I just feel based on the past and present that Bob is the actual roadblock here.

[big_james10]

Mayweather stated in his last interview that one of the things that Pacquaio demanded during their first negotiation was that Pacquaio be told him in advance the day and time that the USOC was going to test him.

That is not a demand of a guy who was concerned about being tested too soon before a fight. That is a demand of a guy who is cheating and wants to avoid being caught cheating. This is something that I never see Fat Dan Rafael or any of the other bloggers or the clowns on this site who blame Mayweather for the fight not happening talking about.