Comments Thread For: Roach: Without Pacquiao, Mayweather's Legacy is Ruined

[BoZz]

Well done roach this is how pac and your work as a coach will be remembered

[BoZz]

[LouIE G]

I feel W. Klitschko deserves to be on that list more than Khan. I understand the HW divisions has been ****ed up since Lewis retired, but he's done more than Khan has in the past five years.

Nah, i can see you have been on since 09, the others i cant help but think it..and those are not p4p rankings, those are my ww divisional rankings!! Sowwey i wasn't clear about it..

[MC Hammer]

Who are the two fighters on Floyds resume better than Barrera and Morales?Are you saying that Floyd has never been accused of using steroids just as Pacquiao has?

you mean the versions that had benn through wars with one another already? Oscar, Shane,Marquez to name 3.

And theres a difference between one inept writer saying three tests from the Olympic testing agency were bought, the recanting that claim, and the majority of fighters and trainers saying that you use PEDs and ducking the biggest fight in history to avoid a test

[Small Turn]

Pacman will always be remembered as the "MAN" MayFloyd Jr ducked!!!

[Dle]

Really Roach? Only if Mayweather would buy into your warped thinking. Floyd's record and achievements amongst quality opponents as he knows them down one by one oppose to Pac's opposition. Try another angle Fred.

[Johnny Rubber]

HAHA, Its xmas day and posters are still on each other about fighters they don't know or probably will never meet.

Wow, the fun never stops in some houses.......

[PacmanP4PLegend]

roach is a ****** just like all of pacs followers.

Hey buddy, hear that? Yep, it's your momma calling, she said it's time for your nap.
------->NOW THAT I'M DONE WITH ONE TARD.......<-----------
Roach is right to a pretty high degree. I undoubtedly think it will hurt Floyd's legacy more so than it will Manny's for these two guys not fighting. For one thing, FMJ is, for the most part, rated higher on a greater number of people's P4P list than Pac so the pressure to deliver and hold that title is greater. Two, Floyd's style doesn't help him at all... He fight's yeah and he always wins yeah, but lets be real here, this is a business funded and enjoyed by none other than the people (the masses), and people wanna be entertained simple as that. They get that entertainment from Pac! Whether he's knocking someone the F* out, or getting knocked the F* out... lol... He always delivers in emphatic fashion. And three, (no brainer), floyd is just all out smarter than Manny Pacquiao. Floyd is an intelligent guy no doubt about it, people say JMM is the smartest uhh-uhh, it's floyd. With that said, floyd should be smart enough to know if he wants to go down as the top 3 ATG if not the greatest, he needs to fight Pacquiao (and win of course, losing wouldn't help his cause, but winning would). Pac follows the trail of bread Arum throws out to him and never questions or contradicts him. Pac lets members of his team say and do things that look bad... real bad... He's just not that intelligent of a fella, and he allows himself to be manipulated whereas floyd is much too smart for that. Sure floyd isn't perfect, but he knows what he's doing, and he needs this fight, more so than Pacquiao (unless he's just contempt with living out his life philthy rich and cares less about what people think about him 20, 30, even 50 years from now)... and Merry Christmas

[GRUSTLER]

I take all this as trash talk because my sig tells a different side of the story.

[GRUSTLER]

You mean this Pacquiao who underestimated the toughest opponent of his life in the 3rd match up because he was beating bigger guys only to get knocked to Saturn in the 4th fight?

"We underestimated Marquez," [IMG]http://i67.***********.com/albums/h315/GRUSTLER/manny-pacquiao-v-juan-manuel-20111112-220641-371.jpg[/IMG]
"I've been fighting at 150, 147 and then this guy [who is] 140-pounds, 135, is moving up. I've been fighting with bigger guys and then I fight a guy who is the same size, so I kind of understimated [him]." Manny Pacquiao.

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...#ixzz1x0RrRW82

I agree that both will look ****** for not getting the fight done but the door swings both ways. At the end of the day Floyd tried to fight Manny twice with Manny not agreeing to the random test protocol Mayweather requested and balking at the 40Mil offer. Not saying Manny was wrong or right because it is his business but many fighters had to compromise to get the big fight they wanted. Manny walk away two times and now Arum is making a fuss about a date he has had Pacquiao fight on before because he doesn't want to disrespect Mexicans. Anyone believing that are straight up JACK ASSES.