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  • #31
    Originally posted by drenlou View Post
    What does it matter?? You won't agree with his opinion anyways..smh
    lol good comeback these lowns love to act like beating a washed up barrera and morales makes pac some great fighter..newsflash marquez was robbed three times against pac and finally ended his career..pac still hasnt recoverd from that vicious knockout..marquez knocked pac back to the minor leagues lmao..

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    • #32
      It's already ruined a long time ago. Nothing new. What am I still missing?

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      • #33
        Like a previous poster said before....one fighter does not make or break your legacy.

        so not fighting one guy will ruin Floyd's legacy but getting kayoed by a 40 year old, 2 no names, and getting outboxed by a past prime erik morales doesn't affect pac's?




        Both fighters will be considered great after their careers are over whether they fight or not so if you feel differently then you are an absolute troll or DKSAB

        5 Questions

        So is Sugar Ray Robinson's legacy ruined because he never faced the top black fighters of his era?.....Cocoa Kid, Bert Lytell, Charley Burley who was top ten at ww and mw for a decade and never once got a title shot, Holman Williams fought Jake Lamotta but SRR who beat Lamotta didn't fight him....Lloyd Marshall as well.....all these guys campaigned at 147 and 160 during the 40's....SRR fought many non title fights over 147


        2) Jack Dempsey used the color line not to fight the top ranked fighters of his time like Harry Wills, George Godfrey, Joe Jeanette, McVey and Sam Langforde....is his legacy tarnished?


        3)The fab four never gave Mike Mike McCallum a fight....even though all of them besides Hagler fought well into or past the 90's while the Body snatcher was a champ at 154 and 150 in the mid 90's to early 90's.....are their legacies tarnished

        4)Ray Leonard never fought Aaron Pryor who had been calling him out since they were amatuers ....does this take away from his legacy?

        5) Jimmy McClarnin beat 14 world champions in his career but most of them were at catchweights where he was the bigger guy or in non title fights....Like Pacquaio he started out as flyweight but settled at welterweight and won a title...along the way he beat guys like Tony Canzoneri,Pancho Villa, and Sammy Mandel who are hall of famers and former champs but they were catch weights....does that afftect his legacy?

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        • #34
          If one fight stamped a person's legacy, fighting anyone else and winning belts is useless and pointless.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TMTForever View Post
            lol good comeback these lowns love to act like beating a washed up barrera and morales makes pac some great fighter..newsflash marquez was robbed three times against pac and finally ended his career..pac still hasnt recoverd from that vicious knockout..marquez knocked pac back to the minor leagues lmao..


            That's what happen when you take risk in boxing, you get koed.

            Holyfield was a tank, he fought 3 wars with a guy like Rid**** Bowe and get koed.

            That's what happens when you fight numerous times great fighters YOUR OWN SIZE.

            Floyd fought Marquez, but at WW the size difference was a joke.

            When I look at Floyd's record the biggest threat he faced might be Cotto or Oscar at 154.

            Sorry but when people will look at all the great fighters and freaks from his era:
            Winky Wright, Pacquiao, Williams, Forrest, Tszyu, prime Casamayor, Vivian Harris, Prime Margo and I can had prime Mosley and prime Cotto.

            Floyd fought fought almost none, expect a couple over the hill.

            People can say whatever they want, but OSCAR FOUGHT EVERYBODY.
            He fought all the dangerous fighters around his divisions.

            Floyd handpicked opponents almost all his career.

            His 0 is not greater than Maricano's one.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
              So the A-side should follow the B-side cause of legacy? Well Iguess its gonna be **** legacy. Honestly Floyd's outshines Pac's. He beat Pacs best wins before Pac did, doesn't have ugly KO losses and doesn't have the spectre of assumed steroid abuse over his name
              Lets not forget who started the steroid rumors.... Floyd mayweather, he started them without any evidence whatsoever hence why he had to shut up apologize and pay an undisclosed amount, there is more proof Floyd has used peds in fact, a credible boxing historian claimed he failed 3x but got waivers by the nsac, plus he admittedly uses xylocaine in his hands

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                If Floyd doesnt fight Manny; in 20 years Manny will go down as the greater of the 2.
                sorry that wont happen either unless they fight and he wins both will be punished not just flkoyd like people love to think

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                • #38
                  For once, I agree with Roach

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
                    Lets not forget who started the steroid rumors.... Floyd mayweather, he started them without any evidence whatsoever hence why he had to shut up apologize and pay an undisclosed amount, there is more proof Floyd has used peds in fact, a credible boxing historian claimed he failed 3x but got waivers by the nsac, plus he admittedly uses xylocaine in his hands
                    actually thats not true either there were rumblings before that the biggest thing with many is the tests and refusing them it didnt help trust me and both those things u said at end have been debunked. not to mention there is no evidence for marquez either but that dont seem to stop u guys from saying it about him

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                      I don't think his "0" would be of much humor, as you make it out to be especially to the boxing fans who actually know about the sport of boxing...will it hurt his legacy?? Of course, but floyd has fought and beaten everyone not named pacquaio!
                      I strongly disagree! If he doesn't fight Pacquiao His 0 will be the biggest joke in boxing history for all the future generations to laugh at. this is NOT just "another" fight. It's a fight of the century. I've been watching boxing for looong time, let me tell you kid, i've seen the aura of Hagler/Leonard hype, and this is much bigger kiddo. You have the chance to put Pacquiao on your resume and you chickened out? That's pure comedy hall of shame.

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