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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    Floyd's biggest problem is he isn't likeable... He has no charisma, and his fighting style is boring..

    If floyd was exciting like tyson, or classy like roy jones, I think he would be a true mega star like tiger woods, Michael Jordan..

    But he's not,, and it's not because he isn't white
    Floyd's greatest money making trait is that he's unlikable. You can't be Mr good guy with that skill set. Its not the 80s.

    If he had a captivating style like Tyson, he could be whatever.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Floyd's biggest problem is he isn't likeable... He has no charisma, and his fighting style is boring..

      If floyd was exciting like tyson, or classy like roy jones, I think he would be a true mega star like tiger woods, Michael Jordan..

      But he's not,, and it's not because he isn't white
      But don't you think some of the likability factor is the media and PR push behind those athletes. By all accounts Jordan and Tiger are A-1 douche bags in person ( Not knocking it because I think to be #1 in your sport or profession you need that arrogance and competitiveness ) but first off they were winners and the best at what they did they PR and media were able to spin them in a positive light and make the masses drink the kool-aid of them not only being great athletes but also good people.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        But don't you think some of the likability factor is the media and PR push behind those athletes. By all accounts Jordan and Tiger are A-1 douche bags in person ( Not knocking it because I think to be #1 in your sport or profession you need that arrogance and competitiveness ) but first off they were winners and the best at what they did they PR and media were able to spin them in a positive light and make the masses drink the kool-aid of them not only being great athletes but also good people.
        Yeah but tiger and Michael werent chronic wife beaters, Jordan always kept his ******** on the low, floyd is posting it on Instagram...

        Endorsements and sponsors arent gonna touch you if your unlikeable to the general public..

        General public loved tiger and Jordan, shaq, Barkley, etc.. No they aren't perfect, but they know how to handle themselves in public.. Floyd does not, and that's why he has zero endorsements even though he is the highest paid athlete on the planet..
        Companies looking for a spokesperson for a commercial aren't gonna sign a chronic wife beater, gambler, unexciting fighter, who constantly contradicts himself in public settings..

        Being a villian might sell PPv fights, but it doesn't make you an icon

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        • #64
          Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
          But don't you think some of the likability factor is the media and PR push behind those athletes. By all accounts Jordan and Tiger are A-1 douche bags in person ( Not knocking it because I think to be #1 in your sport or profession you need that arrogance and competitiveness ) but first off they were winners and the best at what they did they PR and media were able to spin them in a positive light and make the masses drink the kool-aid of them not only being great athletes but also good people.
          Boxing is an entirely different animal than those sports.

          Floyd fights Oscar. He does the good guy thing on 24/7. You have 2 boring good guys. The only thing is, Oscar is the money making good guy. Floyd beats Oscar, does it in the most boring fashion possible. No more mystique with him. He's that boring good guy that be at Oscar.

          Boxing doesn't have the platform that those sports have. Floyd had one chance to make his mark with 24/7, and he capitolized BIG TIME. Imagine he went the good guy role. After that boring win no one would give a crap anymore. Casual fans I mean.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            Yeah but tiger and Michael werent chronic wife beaters, Jordan always kept his ******** on the low, floyd is posting it on Instagram...

            Endorsements and sponsors arent gonna touch you if your unlikeable to the general public..

            General public loved tiger and Jordan, shaq, Barkley, etc.. No they aren't perfect, but they know how to handle themselves in public.. Floyd does not, and that's why he has zero endorsements even though he is the highest paid athlete on the planet..
            Companies looking for a spokesperson for a commercial aren't gonna sign a chronic wife beater, gambler, unexciting fighter, who constantly contradicts himself in public settings..

            Being a villian might sell PPv fights, but it doesn't make you an icon
            You're not following the steps in how he got to be the highest paid.

            Think about it. Good guy, then not the highest paid, but he gets some subway commercials. Bad guy, highest paid, but no endorsements. He played it perfectly. HES THE HIGHEST PAID ATHLETE!

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            • #66
              With his skill set he has to be the bad guy, or grow up in the 60s and do some radical ALI stuff. Casuals aren't trying to watch some boring personality guy that fights like Floyd. Its his personality that adds the x factor to the fans interest level.

              Its generation y. No one has time to watch pure boxers besides us. When that pure boxer throws money at the screen, and has that worldstar hip hop appeal then you start to raise your interest.
              Last edited by CatchAndShoot; 12-18-2014, 03:36 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
                You're not following the steps in how he got to be the highest paid.

                Think about it. Good guy, then not the highest paid, but he gets some subway commercials. Bad guy, highest paid, but no endorsements. He played it perfectly. HES THE HIGHEST PAID ATHLETE!
                Your missing the point,,, we are talking about why floyd isn't a billionaire... He isn't a billionaire because sponsors won't touch him due to his out of the ring tactics..

                Yes playing the villian made him the highest paid athlete for a few years, but he will never be on that global icon level or even a national icon.. And that's why he isn't a billionaire...

                For being the highest paid athlete, his brand is incredibly weak outside of boxing

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  Yeah but tiger and Michael werent chronic wife beaters, Jordan always kept his ******** on the low, floyd is posting it on Instagram...

                  Endorsements and sponsors arent gonna touch you if your unlikeable to the general public..

                  General public loved tiger and Jordan, shaq, Barkley, etc.. No they aren't perfect, but they know how to handle themselves in public.. Floyd does not, and that's why he has zero endorsements even though he is the highest paid athlete on the planet..
                  Companies looking for a spokesperson for a commercial aren't gonna sign a chronic wife beater, gambler, unexciting fighter, who constantly contradicts himself in public settings..

                  Being a villian might sell PPv fights, but it doesn't make you an icon

                  I agree with you on the domestic abuse even if he was white and played the good guy role that would have been a big hit on his marketibiity. But even with that in the States if your still a winner the public can get past it and you'll become marketable again Kobe was vilified for **** charge won a couple rings never really brought up now.

                  But if he was white and promoted as the All American from the start his persona and image that the public sees now would be completely different. Most of the ignorance wouldn't be seen by the public and he'd be perceived in a different light.


                  The "Money " persona is used in my opinion mostly because that was his only avenue that could work for him to become a superstar. When he was pretty boy at the start of his career acting all polite in interviews it was getting any traction with fans or public. Just my take

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
                    Boxing is an entirely different animal than those sports.

                    Floyd fights Oscar. He does the good guy thing on 24/7. You have 2 boring good guys. The only thing is, Oscar is the money making good guy. Floyd beats Oscar, does it in the most boring fashion possible. No more mystique with him. He's that boring good guy that be at Oscar.

                    Boxing doesn't have the platform that those sports have. Floyd had one chance to make his mark with 24/7, and he capitolized BIG TIME. Imagine he went the good guy role. After that boring win no one would give a crap anymore. Casual fans I mean.
                    Yeah agree with what your saying but if Mayweathers white he's already in Oscars shoes at that point he's already the biggest name in boxing. If Mayweather was white and played the good guy role he'd would have been promoted like Tiger was from the start of his career. Oscar would be the b-side when that fight happend.

                    Being exciting isn't the be all end all it helps but winning *****s all that. And there's more $ playing the good guy then the Villian.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by r_walken View Post
                      yeah agree with what your saying but if mayweathers white he's already in oscars shoes at that point he's already the biggest name in boxing. If mayweather was white and played the good guy role he'd would have been promoted like tiger was from the start of his career. Oscar would be the b-side when that fight happend.

                      Being exciting isn't the be all end all it helps but winning *****s all that. And there's more $ playing the good guy then the villian.
                      truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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