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  • IMDAZED
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    #421
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    when you make about the same ppv revenue as what you're paying 1 fighter. you're probably not making much and you might be losing.

    ppv revenue is the bread and butter and it's close to what they guarantee floyd.

    it's plain to see.
    Where in the world did you hear this???????????? Why would they need to make that much to turn profit? Dude just stop.

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      #422
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      You are taking the article out of context. If the fight did 1.5 million buys that is about 56 million after cable companies. Let's say Showtime gets 10% (Which seems about right) that would in fact leave Floyd 50 million.

      The problem arises at numbers lower than a million because before Showtime gets a cut the best they did is 35 million. So again you're using theoretical numbers and I'm crunching the real thing, it paints a different scenario. You might not like it as much as the 1.5 million buy rate, but it's the reality of the situation.
      Where is the problem?

      **edit***

      No dude...no, no, no. How do you make 35m if you sell 900K? Just how??? You mean after they pay Mayweather, right?
      Last edited by IMDAZED; 12-16-2014, 06:17 PM.

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        #423
        Originally posted by MPX309
        Just words, is exactly what I've heard from Pac and Arum too so far.
        Never heard anything from Al Haymon

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          #424
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          You're totally missing the point. Only $30m after? Yeah...and Showtime has already gotten their cut.
          no bud. that cut is not SHOWTIME's cut.

          the half taken off is cable companies cut. time warner, directtv, charter, etc.

          the rest is for showtime, promoters, fighters.

          do you see it now?

          1 mill ppv = $60-70 mill

          $30-35 mill goes to cable companies.

          $30 mill is floyd's guarantee.

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            #425
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            no bud. that cut is not SHOWTIME's cut.

            the half taken off is cable companies cut. time warner, directtv, charter, etc.

            the rest is for showtime, promoters, fighters.

            do you see it now?

            1 mill ppv = $60-70 mill

            $30-35 mill goes to cable companies.

            $30 mill is floyd's guarantee.
            You totally missed my point. Along with Mayweather and the carriers, there is one other entity with a guarantee. Guess who?

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              #426
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Where in the world did you hear this???????????? Why would they need to make that much to turn profit? Dude just stop.
              i think you're lumping in cable company money AS SHOWTIME money.

              when ppl say cable gets half of the ppv $.

              they're not talking about hbo/showtime. they're talking about your cable/sattv provider.

              think it through. go over it again.

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                #427
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                i think you're lumping in cable company money AS SHOWTIME money.

                when ppl say cable gets half of the ppv $.

                they're not talking about hbo/showtime. they're talking about your cable/sattv provider.

                think it through. go over it again.
                No, I'm not. Let's begin with basic principles because this is getting ridiculous.

                Tell me, before you profit or lose, what do you do?

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                  #428
                  Tell me if anyone here gets $2 from the purse split I want my cut.

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                    #429
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Where is the problem?

                    **edit***

                    No dude...no, no, no. How do you make 35m if you sell 900K? Just how??? You mean after they pay Mayweather, right?
                    Wow Dazed, you can't be this dumb...

                    900k buys
                    $75 a pop

                    =

                    That is 67.5 million. Instantly before anyone, even the promoter gets a cut the cable companies take half

                    67.5 million
                    divided by 2 because cable's percentage

                    =

                    33,750,000

                    They didn't even get 35 million and that's assuming EVERY SINGLE buy was HD. That number could be even lower. Before I take in the gate or anything that's the number we have. Now, the casino could have given Floyd a site fee in which case the casino keeps the gate OR they didn't give Floyd a site fee and let him keep the gate money.

                    We then don't know how those numbers are divided amongst Showtime or Golden Boy, because Floyd has yet to promote his own fight. Either way by paying Floyd there's only about 2 million left over. We can get into all the other expenses but the fact of the matter is simple. If you put a fight on PPV and you break even after paying everyone's purse that's a flop.

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                      #430
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      You totally missed my point. Along with Mayweather and the carriers, there is one other entity with a guarantee. Guess who?
                      guess who has to meet floyd's guarantee.

                      it's so simple.

                      1 mill ppv = $70 mill

                      $35 mill goes to cable companies. NOT SHOWTIME. the cable/sattv provider.

                      the remaining $35 mill is split between all the other parties.

                      floyd is guaranteed $30 plus mill right?

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