Comments Thread For: Arum and De La Hoya on May 2nd: That's Canelo's Date

[HanzGruber]

I could be wrong but I think they will move the date if Mayweather agrees to fight Pacquiao. But otherwise they won't. I think they are doing this to pressure Floyd into taking the fight. seems obvious to me.

It's the opposite of that lol. Arum doesn't want it. Arum moved Bradley vs Juan when Floyd vs canelo was official. But he can't make Floyd vs PAC without arum and he wants to "respect the Mexican people" by havin canelo instead. Like Floyd said on Friday arum has been the problem

[Carpe Diem]

This is really a tough situation. It's up to Cotto to do something about it. Cotto is the A-side in his potential match-up with Canelo. If he insists on fighting in June, it will make negotiation tougher for Cotto-Canelo to happen, but at the same time doing that will open the door and give Floyd the opportunity he wants to make Floyd-Khan happen in May. No one wants to see Mayweather-Khan over Mayweather-Pacquiao, but Floyd is an opportunist just like Arum.

He'll push harder for the Khan fight than the Pacquiao fight if he gets the chance to secure the May date. I'm just being honest. I believe Floyd wants the fight, he just wants to have complete control of the business side of the fight, but even as the A-side, he needs to put his ego aside and be a bit more reasonable at the negotiation table. You can't have every single thing on your terms. You have to give in a bit. Give team Pacquiao 40% of the PPV split and if they refuse to take the offer, then it's on them. They have no power to demand more than that. I want Cotto to force Arum and Oscar hands to give up the May 2nd date so we'd see what Arum would do/say next. If Pacquaio-Mosley and Pacquiao-Hatton were good enough for Cinco de Mayo, then it should be good enough for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

[I Love Jesus!]

There is no logic what so ever having Canelo-Cotto on that date over the biggest fight in history.

This thread is embarrassing

You're absolutely right but I think they will move the cotto fight IF Mayweather agrees to fight Pacquiao. The problem is I think Mayweather wants another easy Khan type fight before fighting Pacquiao for his 50th fight. This puts pressure on him to take the fight now because showtime won't go against a PPV of this caliber with Mayweathers huge guarantee. I already read an article on here this week with Arum saying the only way they move off may 2nd if its for a mayweather Pac fight.

[Fetta]

Anyone notice that Oscar was sitting ringside with Bob at an HBO event instead of being at Al Haymon's Showtime extravaganza tonight?

Arum and De La Hoya on May 2: That’s Canelo Alvarez’s date
Lem Satterfield/ December 13, 2014



Promoter Bob Arum said a potential fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao on May 2 — the same day on which Canelo Alvarez and Miguel want to fight — “is not going to happen” on that date.

Mayweather announced during an interview on Showtime Friday that he “would love to fight Manny Pacquiao” on May 2. Alvarez and Cotto have been negotiating to fight that Saturday night on Cinco de Mayo weekend, which Mayweather calls “Cinco de Mayweather.”

Click here for Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s full video interview with Steve Farhood

Arum, who promotes Pacquiao and has been working with Cotto in negotiations with Alvarez, said Alvarez is more entitled to the date because of his Mexican heritage.

Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya, who promotes Alvarez and has had a working relationship with Mayweather, agrees with that sentiment.

“Let me tell you something, and this, I really feel very, very strongly about,” Arum said. “That weekend celebrates Cinco De Mayo, which is a Mexican Holiday, which commemorates the outstanding, courageous stand of a lot of Mexican civilians who turned back the French Imperial army, and it’s a significant holiday in Mexico and among Mexican Americans who live in the United States. That being said, neither Mr. Mayweather, nor Mr. Pacquiao, nor Mr. Cotto, who is Hispanic, but not Mexican.

“The only Mexican in the group is Canelo Alvarez, who is a big attraction among the Mexican people. And to poach on that date, which is a Mexican holiday by non-Mexicans, shows a terrible disrespect for the Mexican people, both those living in Mexico and those living in the United States. And anybody who does the poaching ought to be ashamed of themselves. That goes for hotels and that goes for fighters and that goes for any of us. I’m willing to make that statement.”

Said De La Hoya: “Bob has promoted boxing for more than 50 years and understands the importance of the Mexican and Mexican-American fan. Canelo wants to take back the tradition and fight on Cinco De Mayo for his fans all over the world.”

Arum stopped short of saying he would not participate in the planning of a long-awaited Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown on the same date as Cotto-Alvarez.

“I’m not saying that,” said Arum. “I’m just saying that it’s poaching on a Mexican date and it’s disrespectful to the Mexican people. Period. I’ll make that stand.”

Mayweather made it clear with his announcement that he doesn’t plan to give up the Mexican holiday weekend, on which he has fought five times since 2007 — including each of the past three years.

“We’re trying to make that fight happen,” Mayweather said during an interview with analyst Steve Farhood as part of the network’s broadcast from San Antonio.

“… The fans would love to see the fight, and, of course, I want to go out with a ****. So let’s make this fight happen.”

Meanwhile, De La Hoya announced that Alvarez has agreed to terms for a May 2 fight against Cotto on HBO Pay-Per-View.

Alvarez, who lost a majority decision to Mayweather in 2013, announced this past September that he would seek to take back the weekends of the Mexican holidays of Cinco de Mayo (May) and Mexican Independence Day (September) from Mayweather.

Another potential conflict for that date is the fact that Cotto is now trained by Pacquiao’s longtime corner man, Freddie Roach.

Uncle Bob and Fishnets just trolled the **** outta Floyd. They blew up his scheme to use Manny's name to steal Cinco de Mayo weekend from Cotto/Canelo. InB4 Floyd's 'Cinco de Mayweather weekend or no fight' roadblock.

Also on top of Arums continued ducking Oscar was also ringside next to Espinoza

[I Love Jesus!]

It's the opposite of that lol. Arum doesn't want it. Arum moved Bradley vs Juan when Floyd vs canelo was official. But he can't make Floyd vs PAC without arum and he wants to "respect the Mexican people" by havin canelo instead. Like Floyd said on Friday arum has been the problem

Nah, Ask yourself, Why wouldn't Arum want the fight? He stands to make a fortune. You can't possibly think Arum is afraid Pac will lose. It's not logical.

[IMDAZED]

Come on guys, cut the spin. Put the BS aside and be real for a second.

[NEETzsche]

Nah, Ask yourself, Why wouldn't Arum want the fight? He stands to make a fortune. You can't possibly think Arum is afraid Pac will lose. It's not logical.

arum fills his pockets just fine by matching pacquiao against second-rate in-house fighters

[MPX309]

Nah, Ask yourself, Why wouldn't Arum want the fight? He stands to make a fortune. You can't possibly think Arum is afraid Pac will lose. It's not logical.

Why wouldn't Arum want the fight? Because he wouldn't have control of the fight. . . Floyd would be the A Side, Take the bigger split, choose venue etc. . . Arum much prefers to put Pac against his own stable at TR, like Vargas, in Macau or something, where whoever wins, whatever outcome, It's a good situation for Arum, who also has complete control over the entire card.

[Easy Work.]

Oh man this is great...the real cowards are finally surfacing...now its floyd fans time to call ppl ducks and cowards 24/7....i wonder how dumb all hardcore pac fans feel now

[IIG]

Why wouldn't Arum want the fight? Because he wouldn't have control of the fight. . . Floyd would be the A Side, Take the bigger split, choose venue etc. . . Arum much prefers to put Pac against his own stable at TR, like Vargas, in Macau or something, where whoever wins, whatever outcome, It's a good situation for Arum, who also has complete control over the entire card.

Not to mention it would be a huge blow to Pacquiao's career and earning potential if he loses. Realistically, how many casuals will purchase a Pacquiao PPV if they know he's no longer a threat to beat Mayweather? People like Manny, but not enough for $60+ a fight.