Comments Thread For: Khan: This Fight is a Dress Rehearsal For Mayweather

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • wlliam
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jan 2013
    • 2571
    • 67
    • 7
    • 8,799

    #31
    Originally posted by Real Talk85
    Collazo is a very good mid tier fighter and Julio Diaz is very good in any respect. He would give plenty fighters hell. If your going to try and diminish a fighters resume ask yourself what has Tim Bradley done at WW to earn his P4P spot?

    As far as accomplishments go he is on the same level with Adrian Broner as a WW. He beat one good WW fighter in JMM and that is it. Bradley has his limits, and he know it. That's why he avoided Khan like the plague, he is clearly the better of the two.
    You are actually trying to make a case for Khan by questioning what bradley has done at WW.

    Bradley over Marquez > broner over malinaggi > khan over collazo, diaz, molina.
    And bradley avoided khan "like the plague" ? So who did he fight instead of khan?

    Comment

    • kavi521
      Interim Champion
      Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
      • Jan 2012
      • 647
      • 12
      • 1
      • 8,926

      #32
      if cotto vs canelo happens and mayweather pick khan. Damn i know where most people will be turning in.

      The only way for Mayweather can fight can is in Wembley stadium. Froch vs Groves did over a mil ppv buys. Could Mayweather be looking at that?

      Comment

      • wlliam
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Jan 2013
        • 2571
        • 67
        • 7
        • 8,799

        #33
        Originally posted by kavi521
        if cotto vs canelo happens and mayweather pick khan. Damn i know where most people will be turning in.

        The only way for Mayweather can fight can is in Wembley stadium. Froch vs Groves did over a mil ppv buys. Could Mayweather be looking at that?
        If floyd is considering fighting khan based solely on his drawing power in his home country, then im certain Anthony Mundine is also on that same list as hes also an attraction in his home country

        Comment

        • TOBYLEE1
          Undisputed Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Mar 2009
          • 6824
          • 181
          • 49
          • 14,831

          #34
          The worst part of Khan beating Alexander is that you are going to hear much more from him.

          It is going to be a floodgate of comments and statements by Khan.

          Comment

          • Real Talk85
            Interim Champion
            Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
            • Apr 2014
            • 686
            • 43
            • 0
            • 7,277

            #35
            Originally posted by DonMega
            Are you arguing that khans Resumè deserves a shot?


            No, not at all. If you were going off of resume alone then there are no WW that deserve a fight with Floyd. They are all so young and have not had time to get in those top ten fights but some come close.

            Danny Garcia and Alexander have been in with more top ten fighters than anyone else so they would come the closest. Other than those two, Canelo would have a resume worthy of another fight. I really can't think of anyone else who has fought enough champs to earn that spot.

            I was saying that we should take into account all aspects and not just say fighter A B or C doesn't deserve it simply because you don't like them. Khan is as good a talent as any WW and I would say better than the vast majority, I would take him as a clear favorite over any WW except Alexander, a focused Ortiz, and Kieth Thurman.

            That's not to say Khan doesn't have a good resume, he has fought just about everyone he could and 140 and came up and faced a good gate keeper in Collazo.

            Comment

            • Real Talk85
              Interim Champion
              Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
              • Apr 2014
              • 686
              • 43
              • 0
              • 7,277

              #36
              It seems that the general consensus among fans here is that Khan of all WW is undeserving of a fight with Floyd. To which I have to believe is more fans campaigning for their favorite fighters at the expense of others. If I were to sum up the level of talent of the 147 division based on the comments in these boards it would be: Everyone but Pacquaio and Kieth Thurman suck. What I want is to set the bias aside and lets ask this question.

              How good is the current 147 talent pool?

              My answer I think with the exception of some very new comers I have them pretty much even. One thing I look at is their careers at 140 and they all have stellar resumes, Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Maidana, Ortiz, Danny Garcia, all have great fights under their belt at 140 and most of them have fought one another at some point win or lose and have pretty consistently fought top ten talent (especially Alexander).

              Its hard for me to pick one to stand out from the bunch because I don't consider any of them complete, I think Alexander and Bradley are the most well rounded of the bunch. I would say Ortiz who has potential to be a force but he has no willpower whatsoever. Khan offensively outshines everyone but he has no defensive game to speak of. The same with Danny Garcia who is very strong and has fantastic offense but his defense is really lacking. Garcia has the luxury of a strong chin to counter his defensive shortcomings though.

              Comment

              • Hewito
                Interim Champion
                Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                • Dec 2010
                • 874
                • 33
                • 7
                • 8,494

                #37
                Originally posted by Real Talk85
                Interesting, let's break it down further. Were they K.O on the front or back end of their careers.

                None of the elite fighters I can think of were getting knocked out by journeymen when they came up, it was always on the decline they started to lose. They started out elite then faded not the other way around.

                Ward, Ali, Tyson, Mayweather, Frazier, Foreman, SRR, SRL, Duran, Hagler, Benitez, Hearns, Holyfield, Jones Jr., never had those types of losses on their record until much later in their career, and some of them have yet to taste defeat.

                If your going to pick at who they beat to get a fight with Floyd you have to look at all the variables as well. I don't care if you don't like fighter A B or C if your beating champions to get to Floyd you earned your shot, if your his mandatory you earned your shot ( forcing Manny into a mandatory spot for beating Brandon Rios does not count either.

                Look at what Manny has done outside of fighting the same fighters at WW that Floyd faced when they are well on their downside (especially Oscar the zombie De la Hoya).

                Manny has beaten:

                Josh Clottey
                Margarito in a fight for a belt that was literally made up for him so he could avoid Sergio Martinez
                Brandon Rios
                Chris Algeri
                Tim Bradley

                Thats not the resume of someone that deserves a fight with the P4P title holder.
                Hold on..you are saying JMM is a journeyman?..Why are you talking about mayweather?..Are you saying Khan deserves a fight as much as Manny?..Are you insane?

                Comment

                • Hewito
                  Interim Champion
                  Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 874
                  • 33
                  • 7
                  • 8,494

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Real Talk85
                  No, not at all. If you were going off of resume alone then there are no WW that deserve a fight with Floyd. They are all so young and have not had time to get in those top ten fights but some come close.

                  Danny Garcia and Alexander have been in with more top ten fighters than anyone else so they would come the closest. Other than those two, Canelo would have a resume worthy of another fight. I really can't think of anyone else who has fought enough champs to earn that spot.

                  I was saying that we should take into account all aspects and not just say fighter A B or C doesn't deserve it simply because you don't like them. Khan is as good a talent as any WW and I would say better than the vast majority, I would take him as a clear favorite over any WW except Alexander, a focused Ortiz, and Kieth Thurman.

                  That's not to say Khan doesn't have a good resume, he has fought just about everyone he could and 140 and came up and faced a good gate keeper in Collazo.
                  I got it now..So if you picking Ortiz over khan,kust confirms you are cray cray my friend...You do know Khan got KO by prescott,right?..Quite honestly I dont even know if you are rooting for Khan or Mayweather...It is quite simple..If khan gets a shot at mayweather so be it,will he win,a big no.

                  Comment

                  • Hougigo
                    Gossip Girl
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 38755
                    • 730
                    • 236
                    • 47,223

                    #39
                    I'm not looking ahead to Mayweather.....

                    says this

                    Okay

                    Comment

                    • Hougigo
                      Gossip Girl
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 38755
                      • 730
                      • 236
                      • 47,223

                      #40

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP