Paulie hating on Manny once again

[Scipio2009]

but Maidana was competitive this year, so there goes his theory.

Paulie needs to blow Floyd and get rid of this awkward sexual tension.

Can you imagine that if the fight does happen this clown will call it...ugh.

Maidana and Pacquiao fight nothing alike, and Pacquiao does none of the things that Maidana was successful with against Floyd.

Pacquiao isn't going to walk into any fight +155 pounds, Pacquiao doesn't have any skills fighting from a smother, and Pacquiao doesn't throw anything with conviction beyond his straight left, let alone trying to throw that 12-to-6 punch that Maidana was effective with.

Pacquiao's got more in common with Robert Guerrero than he does with Maidana, lol.

[Pigeons]

65/35 is fair. Pacquiao should take that offer to give the fans the fight we want to see.

[LouIE G]

65/35 is fair. Pacquiao should take that offer to give the fans the fight we want to see.

After all, the fans deserve it right?

[MRCHOKEaMF]

*******s are envensioning backl when pac was on PED'S, he's not that person anymore, as Paulie mentioned a few months back Manny isnt explosive or have that power he used to when there is PED testing. hint, hint. paulie knows manny was a cheater and he hates that aspect and realizes manny got ahead of clean fighters by using PED'S. Manny cheated on his taxes, cheated on his wife, do you think manny quit there? no he cheated in boxing also and now he's gonna get his just due by way of Floyd beating and thoroughly embarrassing his ass and i.r.s. taking his money he makes from the fight

[lacson]

If Floyd tries to walk the Pacman down, which I really have a hard time to visualize, Floyd gets KTFO! I have never seen Pacquiao being walked down by anyone.

More realistically and something I can actually visualize, Floyd will be on his bicycle and Pacman will be walking him down. If Maidana can walk Floyd down, Pacman definitely can.

[Scipio2009]

It works both ways. Mayweather will never have earned as much as he would against Pacquiao. What kind of ******ed logic is that? You negotiate based on the stature of the fight.

Mayweather vs Cotto(c) 2, for the middleweight championship, would earn Mayweather a massive payday (+$50m).

And, if we're being honest here, Mayweather vs Alvarez 2, in September 2015 and Mayweather's "final fight" (Mayweather's taken care of himself well enough to fight at the elite level @147 for another 2-3 years, imo), would also earn Mayweather another gigantic payday (+$60m easy).

Even beyond that, vs Khan/Garcia/Thurman are bankable fights for Mayweather (+$35m, with vs Khan being likely more based on UK PPV attention).

You negotiate based on leverage, ie the options you have if you don't like the terms being discussed. If Mayweather-Pacquiao doesn't happen, Floyd easily has 5 other fights to look to that he'll do just fine with.

If Mayweather-Pacquiao doesn't happen, Top Rank is left with trying to sell Pacquiao-Jessie Vargas as "a fight that the fans demanded", lol.

If the "stature of the fight" was all that mattered, Pacquiao would've offered Marquez a 50-50 split for their fifth fight.

[Twako]

lol paulie's on those heavy sheiit. when was the last time floyd walked anyone down? and when was the last time pac got walked down? anyone who tried to walk down pac, got knocked down, knocked out, tko'd or got his face re-arranged lol.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Are you arguing that $40m +35% of the PPV upside is a bad offer?

Even in 2012, the $40m wasn't even all that unreasonable (Wikipedia states that Oscar and Floyd split up $85m in fight revenue between the two of them); a 55/45 split, based on the previous record's split, isn't an offer that one would be expected to flat out reject in 2012.

The last two years being what they were for the two guys (Mayweather-Alvarez having the two fighters split up another $85m, Pacquiao's numbers collapsing), what is a fair offer in you're opinion?

just for references sake

No....it was laughable.

[JJRod]

Paulie,
If the fight is so easy for Floyd, if Floyd walks down Manny and owns him as you say he would, then why not fight him? Why not get his arse in the ring? Why not offer a truly reasonable offer?
Why not and even split or a 55-45 split?
Yes it would be the biggest Paycheck Manny ever made, but it would also be Floyd's biggest check.

If Floyd is his own boss, fights for the biggest paychecks (which Manny would represent) why isn't he pushing for this fight to be made? Why instead to we hear excuse after excuse.
Random blood testing, no PPV split, 66% -33%, but leave Top Rank, must join TMT, but rematch Marquez.... we hear everything except lets make the fight happen.

[Scipio2009]

Here is an idea..Manny is clearly the A side if he would fight against pauly,since we are talking at a much smaller scale,he will be offered 100,000 for the fight,he is not a ppv star and doesnt have a drawing power..So he MUST sign?

If Paulie truly believed that he had the skills to take advantage of the holes that he sees in Pacquiao's game, he'd hear the $100k offer, work to have his team push that offer up to around the $1.5m that Team Algieri got, and he'd take the fight in a heartbeat.

Pacquiao had an offer for $40m, an offer that he had to go on national TV and admit was really offered, and refused to even feign to negotiate. lol.