Why Ali betrayed Malcolm X

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

FROM JOART: Ali was just a guy who's easy to manipulate. A guy who couldn't control his urges. A bad womanizer. A notorious braggart. No wonder he easily dumped Malcolm just because other people pressured him to do so. Ali may be a boxing great inside the ring. But outside it. Ali was a piss-poor creature for a man."

LOL Number 1... the people that dislike Ali ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make mention of him talking a lot (callimg him a braggart). You ALWAYS give the impression that his big mouth made you dislike him, like it somehow affected his standing as a boxer. 10000 dollars says JOART also thinks "Ali was a coward for not going to Vietnam." He easily dumped Malcolm? You were there? You are very aware of how easy it was for Ali? He told you this? Please. You read too much, especially the stuff that people that hate Ali say.

[JoartCC]

FROM JOART: Ali was just a guy who's easy to manipulate. A guy who couldn't control his urges. A bad womanizer. A notorious braggart. No wonder he easily dumped Malcolm just because other people pressured him to do so. Ali may be a boxing great inside the ring. But outside it. Ali was a piss-poor creature for a man."

LOL Number 1... the people that dislike Ali ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make mention of him talking a lot (callimg him a braggart). You ALWAYS give the impression that his big mouth made you dislike him, like it somehow affected his standing as a boxer. 10000 dollars says JOART also thinks "Ali was a coward for not going to Vietnam." He easily dumped Malcolm? You were there? You are very aware of how easy it was for Ali? He told you this? Please. You read too much, especially the stuff that people that hate Ali say.

I'm not saying that Ali was a coward. It might be offensive. But it's the truth.

Ali was a braggart, a womanizer, a guy who's easy to manipulate, a guy who has little to no convictions, a guy who abandons his family to pursue affairs. Is that not correct? Of course it's correct.

But the fact is, a man is measured by the things that he has done. And what has Ali done? Abandon his friend X. Abandons his family. A womanizer. A braggart. A hypocrite. And a man without convictions. That's the truth. And unless you can present arguments which can prove its not, well, ......

Look at the outcome of his life and it's a pretty obvious result.

And please, you, don't have plain good ol common sense.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Ali had NO conviction????????????????? LOLOL I cannot even reply to you because YOU are one of those guys that hates him without knowing the whole story, race probably comesinto play even, and you will not be swayed out of your ignorant shell.

[Parody]

some people come up with Bull**** "facts" and post em here, when they dont know nothing

[Oasis_Lad]

also the title of this thread "why ali betrayed malcolm x" makes him sound like some sort of judas figure which is totally wrong

[LostGuy]

i dont understand how anybody wouldve willingly been in with that black ******s cult which wasnt really ****** at all
just some racist insult to the true ******s kinda like kkk is for true christians

oh well i dont understand how people are scientologists either

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

LOST GUY, You don't understand why someone could look to a groip like that because when you were 12 years old and had to pee real bad while downtown with your mom you weerent told you had to "hold it in,little boy, because the store you are standing in doesn't allow black kids to use the rest room"

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

LOST GUY, You don't understand why someone could look to a GROUP like that because when you were 12 years old and had to pee real bad while downtown with your mom you weerent told you had to "hold it in,little boy, because the store you are standing in doesn't allow black kids to use the rest room

[The Devil]

I dont think you guys read much about Ali and X, etc otherthan the occassional article, etc. I can see you really have NO IDEA about the background involved here. Number #1.. Ali was a KID when all this was going on... how many 24, 25 year olds in the world are REALLY on top of things? Think back towhen YOU were that age and some of the ****** things you did and said back then. And #2.... Ali COULDNT side with Malcolm over Elijiah... Let Ali choose Malcolm over Elijiah and see what would happen. And I am sure most of you do not know this but Elijiah Muhammad passed away in 1975... and it was not long after that Ali converted to orthodox Islam. There are certainly reasons he wanited until Elijiah passed before he converted.

25 is far old enough to know right from wrong. He admits now it was wrong, so there's no argument. If it were a white supremict saying he had to disassociate with a black man because the Grand Dragon told him to you would call that guy the same thing we're calling Ali.

The one dude back there hit it dead on. Ali had weak character....as most religious fanatics do. He was a cheater and even messed around with White women which is one of the biggest no-nos in "the nation". If you think that is not true, then explain why Ali portrayed himself in the movie The Greatest and did these things on screen. If it weren't true I seriously doubt he would do it on screen in a movie about his life.

Allah is a ****sucker and so0 was Elijah Mohammed.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

"Allah is a ****sucker and so was Elijah Mohammed."

NOTE TO THE DEVIL: When you are on here trying to get some points across that you think might have some merit don't end them with very ignorant statements like that because no matter what you say nobody willtake it as serious. Elijiah was a questionable guy, yes, but Allah? I think Allah was probably not one. Idiot