Comments Thread For: Canelo Warns Mayweather: Not Moving From 5/2, 9/12!

[$Bullsfam$]

Yes, I do.

Um no you dont. Did you even watch the whole Canelo - Floyd ppv? Jack said he hadn't watched a big boxing fight in a while because they usually don't deliver and he was just hoping with all the buzz that Canelo could make it a good fight.

And Mike Tyson loves Manny and other action fights. He constantly rips boring fights so how the hell would you come to the conclusion that you could guarantee he'd pick a Floyd/Khan fight over Cotto/Alvarez?

[IMDAZED]

Um no you dont. Did you even watch the whole Canelo - Floyd ppv? Jack said he hadn't watched a big boxing fight in a while because they usually don't deliver and he was just hoping with all the buzz that Canelo could make it a good fight.

And Mike Tyson loves Manny and other action fights. He constantly rips boring fights so how the hell would you come to the conclusion that you could guarantee he'd pick a Floyd/Khan fight over Cotto/Alvarez?

Well then Jack has missed a lot of good fights, no?

[IronDanHamza]

High profile celebrities go to the big fights, do you really think somebody like Mike Tyson or Jack Nicholson is gonna pick a sshiiiiy fight with Khan over a guaranteed all out war that is the 2nd biggest fight boxing could make?

Again Floyd doesn't take risks and showtime sure as hell won't be down to take that risk so I GURANTEE Floyd either has to fight manny, not fight at all until September or change his date. You guys act like people just go "OH MY GOD FFLOYDMAYWEATHER! TAKE MY MONEY!" Floyd needs an opponent to do good numbers. With a joke of an opponent plus Cotto-Canelo, Floyd will not do as good numbers and if Showtime can't get max profit off a Floyd fight I'm am 100% sure they'd rather him sit out then go against Cotto-Alvarez.

The high profile celebrities, most of which are casuals, are going to go to the Mayweather fight because he has a vastly larger casual audience.

Canelo-Cotto is a big fight and even to casuals it's a big fight but not compared to a Mayweather fight.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Khan-Mayweather did better numbers.

[bigjavi973]

i bet you took a look at the little mexican penis and enjoyed yourself. vegas means business.mayweather's name is written all over it.

J'love is that you!? Or is it Badu Jack!?!

[IronDanHamza]

Um no you dont. Did you even watch the whole Canelo - Floyd ppv? Jack said he hadn't watched a big boxing fight in a while because they usually don't deliver and he was just hoping with all the buzz that Canelo could make it a good fight.

And Mike Tyson loves Manny and other action fights. He constantly rips boring fights so how the hell would you come to the conclusion that you could guarantee he'd pick a Floyd/Khan fight over Cotto/Alvarez?

So knowing that, you think Jack, who just saw Canelo getting dominated against Mayweather, in the first fight he's seen in years because he doesn't watch boxng, is going to chose to watch that person against a guy he probably barely knows instead of a Mayweather fight?

[The Big Dunn]

It's really not rocket science. Cotto and Canelo would take all off the Hispanic fan base while Floyd would rely on guys like Big Dunn and Brushmyhair and other diehard Floyd fans. Not to mention the lackluster fight Floyd put up against Maidana, who wants to see him fight some British guy with no chin and no power.

You guys are extremely underestimating Cotto and Alvarez or just riding Floyds ****. But you guys are usually good posters so I really hope it's the latter. Floyds never gone against other competition on the same day because he's never had a threat. I'm not even saying Floyd would back down 100% but mostly showtime who again needs Floyd to do max profit to even come close to breaking even against a lackluster opponent in the states.

The problem with your point is you have no idea what people want or like. The best way to assess those things are looking at what PPV's consumers purchase.

without Floyd-cotto and canelo both had disappointing ppv according to ARum and ODH. Floyd's ppv's this year were also disappointing. Floyd's disappointing was 100-200k more than canelo and cotto combined.

both fights would sell out the MGM-but you know Floyd tickets will be much more exspensive and yield a higher gate-remember the 3rd and 4th highest gates in Vegas HISTORY are Floyd/maidana 1 and 2.

I understand your points, just please consider the points in response.

[MDPopescu]

Drive and contribute are two different words. do you know the difference? please don't use a word I didn't then attempt to debate that. Debate my point, do not change it and try to debate it.

Big Dunn, dear, I do appreciate your relentless efforts in supporting some legends in this sport... But everything has to end sooner or later...

[IronDanHamza]

If that's the case then why aren't they selling PPV's on their own? When they're not even going up against another PPV?

Floyd "flops" do what? 800-900k?

What did Canelo lasts PPV do? 300K right?

Cotto-Martinez was a big fight and what did that do? 350k?

Together they are 200k short of Floyd's "flop".

What people dot understand is this fight is not as big a fight to the casuals as it is to the hardcore fans.

The casuals are what drive the PPV and the hardcore fans think to he casuals are as interested in this fight as they are.

[$Bullsfam$]

If that's the case then why aren't they selling PPV's on their own? When they're not even going up against another PPV?

They are? Floyd wouldn't have hit 2 million if not for Alvarez being an undefeated Mexican. Cotto did great number with Manny and Floyd too, but both also did well on their own pay per views based on normal boxing standards. I believe Cotto Martinez and Canelo-Lara/Angulo all did about 300k-500k which is great if your not Floyd or Manny.

I'm not saying they are bigger draws but them fighting each other and the fact Floyd wouldn't have a decent opponent to go up against them with, I really think he would lose in the states. I'm sure a Khan fight would sell well with overseas revenue included, But in the states no way Floyd does even close to as well as he normally does against that other PPV.

In the end both events suffer but I think Floyd/Showtime would suffer more. Not Floyd with his guarantee but showtime for not being able to make as much of a profit.

[IMDAZED]

They are? Floyd wouldn't have hit 2 million if not for Alvarez being an undefeated Mexican. Cotto did great number with Manny and Floyd too, but both also did well on their own pay per views based on normal boxing standards. I believe Cotto Martinez and Canelo-Lara/Angulo all did about 300k-500k which is great if your not Floyd or Manny.

I'm not saying they are bigger draws but them fighting each other and the fact Floyd wouldn't have a decent opponent to go up against them with, I really think he would lose in the states. I'm sure a Khan fight would sell well with overseas revenue included, But in the states no way Floyd does even close to as well as he normally does against that other PPV.

In the end both events suffer but I think Floyd would suffer more.

If that's the case then why aren't they doing bigger #'s? Simple. 300K is good but if they bring in so many people then they should do more.