People say Oscar was drained against Manny... I see a master class

[Showtime..]

How was he a natural 154 lber?
Weren't most of his big fights (like almost every one) at 140-147?

Sorry I didn't mean natural. I meant that he was quite settled in at 154 by the time he fought PAC. Little attention to the 160 run because it isn't much there, similar to Pacquiao at 154.

[Larry the boss]

vs Manny



vs Mayweather

[Beater_of_ass]

vs Manny



vs Mayweather

Oscar has much more muscle definition in the fight with Manny and he wasn't even flexing. Manny version >> Floyd version. It's not even debatable Larry.

[M Bison]

It's gospel that Oscar was supposedly a drained zombie (maybe he was), but people often overlook the fact that Oscar was the A side, there was no catch-weight, Manny was moving up in weight etc.. Manny moved up TWO WEIGHT CLASSES for this fight! This win has been badly discredited but it's one hell of a win!

I think people were literally dumbfounded at how badly Manny dominated and schooled De La Hoya, it was a combination of Floyd hardcore fans, Oscar fans, just a general disbelief at how dominant that win was.

I know it hurts a lot of butts but Manny schooled Oscar, he took away his jab completley, his footwork was A+, handspeed phenomenal, footspeed and lateral movement everything was unbelievable.

This fight also disproves the Fl0mo boxing hipster theory that Manny has poor boxing skills and poor fundamentals, but they would just reply ''drained zombie doe, derp derp'' but if you watch the fight the skill Manny shows is ATG level, blinder jab, straight left circle round, right hand, even his defence was on point.

Prime Manny beats any version of Oscar sorry.

Agreed, the more I look at older footage at how he struggled with guys like Sturm and Whittaker, I think he just struggles with certain styles; Pernell more so than anything.

You can't necessarily compare Pernell and Pacquiao in fighting style in every single way both are short guys and they're tricky to land on.
The Oscar, Floyd fought was coming off a loss I believe?

[oscar_angels091]

Agreed, the more I look at older footage at how he struggled with guys like Sturm and Whittaker, I think he just struggles with certain styles; Pernell more so than anything.

You can't necessarily compare Pernell and Pacquiao in fighting style in every single way both are short guys and they're tricky to land on.
The Oscar, Floyd fought was coming off a loss I believe?

he had just beat mayorga

[Larry the boss]

Agreed, the more I look at older footage at how he struggled with guys like Sturm and Whittaker, I think he just struggles with certain styles; Pernell more so than anything.

You can't necessarily compare Pernell and Pacquiao in fighting style in every single way both are short guys and they're tricky to land on.
The Oscar, Floyd fought was coming off a loss I believe?

How was Oscar coming off of a loss when he fought Floyd?? he had just won the WBC title via ko over Mayorga

[oscar_angels091]

oscar underestimated manny, he thought ht was too big for pac, he said he drank alcohol in training camp

pacquiao is misspelled in your sig.

[jas]

Now pull up the Marquez pics vs Floyd and pac

[FrankieClutch]

I've never understood the logic of discrediting Pac's win over Oscar. EVERYONE, myself included, picked Oscar because we all thought Oscar was going to plow right through him. It was Oscars fault for not re-hydrating more than 2 pounds on the night of the fight.

[FrankieClutch]

Oscar has much more muscle definition in the fight with Manny and he wasn't even flexing. Manny version >> Floyd version. It's not even debatable Larry.

You realize that definition is possible by the amount of body fat you have right? Definition of muscles means nothing in boxing lol