People say Oscar was drained against Manny... I see a master class

[Larry the boss]

Nobody is saying that. They are saying being drained is not the reason he lost. Whether he was drained or not, he would've lost.

And, like it has been pointed out, Oscar is the one that choose not to bulk up between weigh in and fight night.

So clinging onto he was drained, implying Manny won because this, and that he took advantage of Oscar, is ******ed, and is only something all the embarrassing lovers of women beaters, fans of Floyd, claim.

Not sure where that came from at all..but anyway like i said..Oscar deserved what he got,he was suppose to fight the winner of Cotto-Margo but tried to pick on a guy with 1 fight at 135 and got his **** pushed in...great day in boxing history

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

oscar was drained and pac man went in and did what he had to do, lets not make this any more than it is, just like algriei, just take the win and STFU there is no need ot try to make it any more than it was

[Beater_of_ass]

You realize that definition is possible by the amount of body fat you have right? Definition of muscles means nothing in boxing lol

It was sarcasm :/

[Hype job]

Yes it was his fault and i enjoyed watching Manny retire him..........BUT people in this thread are actually saying he was in good shape and not drained??

He started camp at 154 so....

People cling onto the 'drained' theory too much.

[Joe Beamish]

Watching the Oscar/Pac fight again reminded me that Pacquaio hasn't really "lost" tons of power of snap in his punches. He was never a one punch killer like GGG. He always accumulated punches on people, breaking the opponent down over time.

Pac is slower today, and less reckless, but not a fundamentally different fighter.

[Larry the boss]

He started camp at 154 so....

People cling onto the 'drained' theory too much.

There is no theory,he was drained as drained can get.BUT Manny looked great and kicked his ass and retired him.....

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

watching the oscar/pac fight again reminded me that pacquaio hasn't really "lost" tons of power of snap in his punches. He was never a one punch killer like ggg. He always accumulated punches on people, breaking the opponent down over time.

Pac is slower today, and less reckless, but not a fundamentally different fighter.

yeah ur right and hes still fast as lightning!!! But he was kind of wreckless in the algerie fight... Maybe it was because he had no respect for him, at times he fought very sloppy but i agree with ur post overall

[Hype job]

There is no theory,he was drained as drained can get.BUT Manny looked great and kicked his ass and retired him.....

That is all it is, you have no proof other than your opinion.

[Heavyfist]

Watching the Oscar/Pac fight again reminded me that Pacquaio hasn't really "lost" tons of power of snap in his punches. He was never a one punch killer like GGG. He always accumulated punches on people, breaking the opponent down over time.

Pac is slower today, and less reckless, but not a fundamentally different fighter.

His workrate is waaaaay down, which is to be expected. I think that is the biggest difference, and makes a big difference. He hasn't actually lost too much hand speed.

You know Manny is so much more exciting that Floyd, but I have to admit Manny has been fighting crap opponents for a bit now.

At least the Floyd opponents are completely credible. Khan and Maidana are more than a credible opponents. Algieri and Vargas are not.

[Larry the boss]

That is all it is, you have no proof other than your opinion.

No proof??? wtf?? Roach said it,Oscar said it..and look at the pictures

Is this not drained??