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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    same!



    That's exactly what I'm saying, he doesn't just defend or attack, he does both, gets tagged and keeps coming. Might be in trouble with mobile punchers like Matthysse or Garcia but who cares, he'd give us fun fights.



    I know there was a lot of Sweet Pea comparisons a couple years back but I don't see it anymore. Maybe back then he was trying to but now he is a boxer/puncher type with a good but not great defence. He is far more aggressive than Pea, hits harder and likes to get rough.

    Pea could be a warrior too but he was far more defensively minded.
    I agree but Pea had to be a little more defensive minded. I think if you put a Beltran in front of a prime Pea, he probably beats him up pretty bad and maybe stops him. Against guys like Azumah Nelson, for instance, Crawford would have to be extremely careful.

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    • #1Assassin
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      #22
      i love the diversity of boxing as a sport. how various styles match up differently and create a different kind of fight and outcome on any given night. as such i appreciate all styles as they make boxing the great sport it is.

      that said i too prefer crawfords style of fighting. my least favorite style is the brawler, i need skills to be truly entertained. the art of fighting is what boxing is about to me and i watch to be impressed. i enjoy pure boxing more than pure fighting.

      but when you get the best of both worlds, thats boxing at its finest and guys like crawford bring just that. very technically sound fighter with a good head on his shoulders who understands what he is doing in there. but what he is doing in there is ****ing people up, skillfully. i love it.

      im still not sure just how good he is, but we will find out shortly. he can fight, at 140 we will find out to which degree.

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      • SeekDaGreat
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        #23
        He is definitely a highly skilled boxer. He is a bit too much of a "mover" for me personally but hey you do what works for you, personally to get the W. That's the name of the game.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #24
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          I agree but Pea had to be a little more defensive minded. I think if you put a Beltran in front of a prime Pea, he probably beats him up pretty bad and maybe stops him. Against guys like Azumah Nelson, for instance, Crawford would have to be extremely careful.
          Pea could def step it up, no doubt about that and his incredible defence, based on such natural reflexes allowed him to be almost untouchable at times. But Crawford hits harder and can one day be a good boxer puncher. Pea was never that.

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          • Ray*
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            #25
            You forgot about James Toney!!!

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              #26
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              I like to think of guys like SRL, DLH, Mosley, Hearns, Hagler and so on as technicians and think the use of the term "boxer" is ****** and offensive. Is a great, come forward, aggressive fighter any less of a boxer? Of course not, there are different styles. A technician is someone with sound boxing fundamentals and the ability to switch between attack and defense. The US produced a tonne of this guys from the 80s to the mid-90s.

              However, over the last decade, America seemed to be producing, stationary defensive fighters who rely on quick one twos and then run. Dirrel, Ward and so on are prime examples. Simply put, they are boring. Maybe it started with the success of Floyd Mayweather.

              But now, with Terrence Crawford, here's a technician I can get behind. Sound fundamentals, fun to watch, killer instinct, sits down on his punches and is willing to go blow for blow. I'm not jumping on the hype train like a lot of people here, I think Garcia and Pacman at 140 beat him and the latter probably beats him up but I reckon he'd take Mikey and Broner and Prov.

              Anyway, win or lose, he's someone I like to watch.
              What the fk are you talking about? You say stationary fighters and then you follow up by saying they run? How can you be stationary and run? That's just ******ed and the rest of your post has the same theme. Just an overall ******ed post.

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                #27
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Pea could def step it up, no doubt about that and his incredible defence, based on such natural reflexes allowed him to be almost untouchable at times. But Crawford hits harder and can one day be a good boxer puncher. Pea was never that.
                True, he could be a better puncher than Pea. Would like to se how he looks at 140 first before I say that.

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                • Run
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                  #28
                  I like him, because he's a pugilist.

                  Switches it up. And he's blindingly fast.



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                  • Daylyt
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    I like to think of guys like SRL, DLH, Mosley, Hearns, Hagler and so on as technicians and think the use of the term "boxer" is ****** and offensive. Is a great, come forward, aggressive fighter any less of a boxer? Of course not, there are different styles. A technician is someone with sound boxing fundamentals and the ability to switch between attack and defense. The US produced a tonne of this guys from the 80s to the mid-90s.

                    However, over the last decade, America seemed to be producing, stationary defensive fighters who rely on quick one twos and then run. Dirrel, Ward and so on are prime examples. Simply put, they are boring. Maybe it started with the success of Floyd Mayweather.

                    But now, with Terrence Crawford, here's a technician I can get behind. Sound fundamentals, fun to watch, killer instinct, sits down on his punches and is willing to go blow for blow. I'm not jumping on the hype train like a lot of people here, I think Garcia and Pacman at 140 beat him and the latter probably beats him up but I reckon he'd take Mikey and Broner and Prov.

                    Anyway, win or lose, he's someone I like to watch.

                    TC is all around fun to watch, I think Pacquaio beats him at 140 but pacquaio beats everyone at 140 and Garcia is just too big for him at 140.

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                    • soul_survivor
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      True, he could be a better puncher than Pea. Would like to se how he looks at 140 first before I say that.
                      Yeah, the litmus test is at 140 but with his frame, I think he only gets better, hits harder and becomes stronger.

                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      You forgot about James Toney!!!
                      I didn't, I was talking about guys after that generation as being "boring boxers". Toney is from the same gen as DLH, Mosley and so on.

                      Originally posted by Daylyt
                      TC is all around fun to watch, I think Pacquaio beats him at 140 but pacquaio beats everyone at 140 and Garcia is just too big for him at 140.
                      I'm not sure if Garcia is too big for him, boxrec states he's only half an inch taller. Not sure how accurate that is considering boxers heights seem to change all the time LOL

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