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  • pnksntdead
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    #171
    Originally posted by deuce_drop
    I didn't and am not going to read through all the comments, but one thing that hasn't happened too, if I am not mistaken, is that fact that Pacquiao hasn't been in as many "catch weight" fights in recent years.....

    also, Manny getting starched by JMM also has to play into effect, with him taking a more defensive approach.

    but back to the "catch weights" one of the things pacquiao had going for him, when he fought the bigger fighters, is they had a rehydrate clause that only allowed his opponent to rehydrate up to a certain weight, usually something to the tune of no more than 9lbs.

    I remember that was the deal with cotto and cotto was emaciated, same with de la hoya, and I am sure that practice happened against everyone that was a "catch weight" victim.

    in every single one of those fights, all those fighters agreed to the terms. again, almost all fights are won in the negotiations of the fight. pacquiao's career is no exception. he has been very well managed.

    that is something Sr., Jr. and Uncle, all detractors, never factor in.
    Cotto emaciated? Watch the post fight interview and see what Cotto said about weight. He had no weight issues and made no excuses.

    Hatton didn't have a hydrate clause and he got knocked cold.

    Mosley didn't either and he got droped so bad he was begging ****m to stop the fight.

    Marquez had no hydrate clause and he got dropped and hurt in the 4th.

    Margarito came in at 17 lbs heavier at fight night and he got beaten. Pac eased off in the last 3 rounds. He could have permanently damaged margaritos eye to get the KO but hes not that kind of guy.

    Algieri was still getting up at 10 in the 9th round, after a long 10 count.

    Name another former flyweight whos hurt 140 to 147 lbers.

    Now lets look at Floyds fights. He balloons marquez from 135 to 142 and still fails to make weight but still fails to stop him. He fights Maidana who got dropped at 140 by khan and struggles past josesito lopez and floyd looks ordinary. Floyd fights Guerero, who recently came up and failed to hurt him at all. He drains Canelo to 152 and still refused to engage. Never faced martinez or responded to ggg challenge at 154 though he can easily fight at that weight.

    Talk about a well managed career, look at Floyd. He fights only B level fighters at 147. The good ones that he fought we severly weight disadvantaged and the last ko he had in many years was a cheap shot.
    Last edited by pnksntdead; 11-29-2014, 02:22 AM.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #172
      there was never a rehydrate clause in any pac fight.

      that was a bogus rumor.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #173
        Originally posted by mathed
        Enough talk old man, tell your coward son to get in the ring with him then. If he isn't on "roids" now as evidenced by his obvious lack of KO's, then why continue to run away from him?

        These clowns are complete jokes....."We won't fight him because he's on stuff!!!" A couple of years pass by and "We won't fight him because he isn't KOing guys anymore!"
        At what point does he say "we won't fight him because he isn't KO'ing guys anymore"

        You literally, and I mean literally, just made that quote up.

        You actually put quotation marks on a completely made up quote.

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        • gdghunter06
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          #174
          Originally posted by TMTForever
          Dude really I can pull up videos too of how hard it is to beat manny. No one in that ring is untouchable or invincible. Floyd almost got knocked out at the end of the 3rd round when maidana countered him if he had another min it might have been over. It took Marquez 4 fights and super timing to get that knockout. Before that manny was kicking his ass with head movement and punches from all angles and was ahead on all the judges scorecards.

          Hate to break it to you but Floyd is not God he is beatable. Floyd has been very good at picking the right opponents with very low risk and he has even admitted it by saying it's not about working harder it's about working smarter. He could have picked khan over maidana but he didn't because he didn't want to deal with khan's hand speed he totally could kick Amir's ass but instead he picked the easier fight and picked maidana and that ish almost backfired on him because maidana came in there not giving a damn throwing everything he could at him.

          Manny has not ducked anyone he fights anyone they put in front of him and does so with respect to his opponent and with dignity, a true warrior so I hope this fight happens and we will all see a defensive genius in Floyd go up against the best offensive fighter in this generation.

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          • KillaMane26
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            #175
            Originally posted by beastoverhand
            Floyd Sr. be like
            LMFAO..........Just fight Manny and quit acting like lil broads smh

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            • jas
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              #176
              Originally posted by jas
              They both did vada testing

              Rios , Bradley and Maragarito have great chins

              Clottey and Mosley went into survival mode

              The above fighters only been stopped 3 times in over 250 bouts

              /thread
              not to mention marquez also has a great chin

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              • Anxious Times
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                #177
                He still has more power than your son ever had.

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                • JoeKidd
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by gdghunter06
                  Dude really I can pull up videos too of how hard it is to beat manny. No one in that ring is untouchable or invincible. Floyd almost got knocked out at the end of the 3rd round when maidana countered him if he had another min it might have been over. It took Marquez 4 fights and super timing to get that knockout. Before that manny was kicking his ass with head movement and punches from all angles and was ahead on all the judges scorecards.

                  Hate to break it to you but Floyd is not God he is beatable. Floyd has been very good at picking the right opponents with very low risk and he has even admitted it by saying it's not about working harder it's about working smarter. He could have picked khan over maidana but he didn't because he didn't want to deal with khan's hand speed he totally could kick Amir's ass but instead he picked the easier fight and picked maidana and that ish almost backfired on him because maidana came in there not giving a damn throwing everything he could at him.

                  Manny has not ducked anyone he fights anyone they put in front of him and does so with respect to his opponent and with dignity, a true warrior so I hope this fight happens and we will all see a defensive genius in Floyd go up against the best offensive fighter in this generation.
                  Good post.

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                  • doobear
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by pnksntdead
                    Cotto emaciated? Watch the post fight interview and see what Cotto said about weight. He had no weight issues and made no excuses.

                    Hatton didn't have a hydrate clause and he got knocked cold.

                    Mosley didn't either and he got droped so bad he was begging ****m to stop the fight.

                    Marquez had no hydrate clause and he got dropped and hurt in the 4th.

                    Margarito came in at 17 lbs heavier at fight night and he got beaten. Pac eased off in the last 3 rounds. He could have permanently damaged margaritos eye to get the KO but hes not that kind of guy.

                    Algieri was still getting up at 10 in the 9th round, after a long 10 count.

                    Name another former flyweight whos hurt 140 to 147 lbers.

                    Now lets look at Floyds fights. He balloons marquez from 135 to 142 and still fails to make weight but still fails to stop him. He fights Maidana who got dropped at 140 by khan and struggles past josesito lopez and floyd looks ordinary. Floyd fights Guerero, who recently came up and failed to hurt him at all. He drains Canelo to 152 and still refused to engage. Never faced martinez or responded to ggg challenge at 154 though he can easily fight at that weight.

                    Talk about a well managed career, look at Floyd. He fights only B level fighters at 147. The good ones that he fought we severly weight disadvantaged and the last ko he had in many years was a cheap shot.
                    LMAO you can't even compare the two what you sir left out is all those opponents were all coming off of their worst losses of their careers. Bob and roach new exactly what they doing.

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                    • doobear
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by gdghunter06
                      Dude really I can pull up videos too of how hard it is to beat manny. No one in that ring is untouchable or invincible. Floyd almost got knocked out at the end of the 3rd round when maidana countered him if he had another min it might have been over. It took Marquez 4 fights and super timing to get that knockout. Before that manny was kicking his ass with head movement and punches from all angles and was ahead on all the judges scorecards.

                      Hate to break it to you but Floyd is not God he is beatable. Floyd has been very good at picking the right opponents with very low risk and he has even admitted it by saying it's not about working harder it's about working smarter. He could have picked khan over maidana but he didn't because he didn't want to deal with khan's hand speed he totally could kick Amir's ass but instead he picked the easier fight and picked maidana and that ish almost backfired on him because maidana came in there not giving a damn throwing everything he could at him.

                      Manny has not ducked anyone he fights anyone they put in front of him and does so with respect to his opponent and with dignity, a true warrior so I hope this fight happens and we will all see a defensive genius in Floyd go up against the best offensive fighter in this generation.
                      LMAO why duck when he fights guys at the low points of their careers. He turned down Mosley after Mosley did to margarito what pac couldn't do.... LMAO

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