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  • MisanthropicNY
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    #71
    Mayweather-Maidana with Broner and Khan on the undercard did 900K PPVs and Pac-Bradley II did 750-800 with no big names on the undercard lol...

    Mayweather v. Cotto 1.5 million PPV buys Pacquiao v. Cotto 1.25 million PPV buys... but wait...

    Pac-Cotto = a joke of an undercard...

    Mayweather v. Cotto = Canelo Alvarez v. Shane Mosley as the undercard fight...

    Mayweather v. Mosley when Mosley was hot... 1.4 mil with Canelo on the undercard...

    Pac v. Mosley a year later... 1.3 mil horrible undercard

    Showtime will be kicking themselves if they have to hide the PPV results for another Mayweather fight if he ducks Pacquiao again LOL

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    • Scipio2009
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      #72
      Originally posted by LinealChampion
      Co promotion, Mayweather promotions is not legit, Mayweather needs someone on his side to do the hard work, rather than be Al Haymon, Ellerbe and Goldenboy, but its clear he needs a promotional company in his corner
      Ellerbe is still there, and Mayweather Promotions also brought in Bruce Binkow, Schaefer's old #2, to operate as Ellerbe's #2 (Binkow brings far more actual promotional experience than De La Hoya, if we're honest).

      Mayweather now has his own license, and Schaefer, who Mayweather liked working with, is no longer the workhorse at Golden Boy.

      Mayweather has a better relationship with Showtime than Oscar has now, and Mayweather has a better relationship with the MGM Grand than Oscar does.

      What does Oscar actually bring to the table?

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      • MisanthropicNY
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        #73
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        Whatever the number, we can easily guess it's much more than Pacquaio vs. Algieri. Only a fool would guess otherwise. Now maybe if Floyd were fighting the equivalent of Algieri, like Malignaggi (and even HE has much more popularity than Algieri), then the numbers might be similar.
        You do realize Mayweather has blatantly lied about PPV numbers in the past (see the Ghost fight) and Mayweather has lied about how much money he made (see how much Mayweather was paid for Wrestlemania appearance)

        Pac v. Marquez 3 did way more than Mayweather v. Marquez and Maywather was coming out of retirement... and Pac-Marquez 3 had a terrible undercard...

        This idea that Mayweather sells way more PPVs than Pac is just not true... Pac isn't even American and sells PPVs in his country also and Mayweather is American and sells in no other country.

        Take Canelo and De La Hoya out of the equation and Mayweather doesn't outsell Pacquiao with common opponents by much because Pac-Marquez 3, 400 K more than Mayweather-Marquez...

        Pac-Marquez 3 = 1.45 million

        Mayweather (fresh out of retirement) v. Marquez = 1.05 million

        HollerRRRR
        Last edited by MisanthropicNY; 11-27-2014, 05:33 PM.

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        • KnickTillDeaTh
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          #74
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          There was a time when boxing was as relevant as the NBA, NFL, etc. You'd find boxing gyms everywhere. And I mean, everywhere! Today though? It's a ghost town. You really don't hear about much about boxing in the mainstream aside from Mayweather and Pacquaio. That wasn't the case before.

          MMA moved to more mainstream channels, and in turn, became more popular in the mainstream than did boxing. Although financially, none of those guys touch the elite boxers. Boxing won't die, but mainstream wise, it's literally being carried by Pacquaio and Mayweather. And that is truly sad.
          your views are warped my friend. Every decade people say boxing is dieing and every decade those people are wrong.

          The Sports Business Journal recently put out its ***8220;Fight Issue***8221; which gave a rundown on the most-watched boxing matches from April 2013 to April 2014.
          The top 6 according to the list compiled by SBJ:

          October 5, 2013 ***8211; Miguel Cotto vs. Delvin Rodriguez ***8211; HBO ***8211; 1.55M

          September 28, 2013 ***8211; Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. vs. Bryan Vera I ***8211; HBO ***8211; 1.42M

          November 2, 2013 ***8211; Gennady Golovkin vs. Curtis Stevens ***8211; HBO ***8211; 1.41M

          March 1, 2014 ***8211; Adonis Stevenson vs. Tony Bellew ***8211; HBO ***8211; 1.4M

          June 22, 2014 ***8211; Adrien Broner vs. Paulie Malignaggi ***8211; SHO ***8211; 1.28M

          December 14, 2014 ***8211; Adrien Broner vs. Marcos Maidana ***8211; SHO ***8211; 1.28M

          I dont see Mayweather or Pac on this list. Something tells me Boxing is as strong as its ever been, the numbers dont lie. Right now the best fights are broadcast on paid network channels, while MMA is benefiting from fights on sp.ike t.v. and cbs. The money involved with boxing is to big to stage these fights on regular T.V., MMA doesnt share that distinction.

          Boxing will be fine.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            Remember when Pacquiao turned down 50/50 twice because he didn't want to be drug tested? "peeleft:
            ... But the Ice Age? Do you remember the Ice Age?

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              #76
              Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
              Pacquiao JUST fought in China and made 23M. Dude, he's guaranteed to make at-least 20 against anyone he faces. If he fights Vargas in Vegas he's guaranteed 23M..
              Did Pac raised $23mln last saturday? Really?

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              • MC Hammer
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                #77
                De LaHoya has nothing to do with this. There is a reason MP got its license in Vegas and NY and that is so they won't have to deal with GB. Oscar needs to tend to his fighter. And wasn't he trying to get the May 5 date for Canelo, so why would he be involved here?

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by MC Hammer
                  De LaHoya has nothing to do with this. There is a reason MP got its license in Vegas and NY and that is so they won't have to deal with GB. Oscar needs to tend to his fighter. And wasn't he trying to get the May 5 date for Canelo, so why would he be involved here?
                  Everyone knows that Canelo v. Cotto is a go for May 5 in Vegas UNLESS May-Pac happens then Canelo v. Cotto moves to June:

                  Blog for hardcore boxing fans, which covers areas of most interest in the boxing community.

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                  • MC Hammer
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                    Mayweather-Maidana with Broner and Khan on the undercard did 900K PPVs and Pac-Bradley II did 750-800 with no big names on the undercard lol...

                    Mayweather v. Cotto 1.5 million PPV buys Pacquiao v. Cotto 1.25 million PPV buys... but wait...

                    Pac-Cotto = a joke of an undercard...

                    Mayweather v. Cotto = Canelo Alvarez v. Shane Mosley as the undercard fight...

                    Mayweather v. Mosley when Mosley was hot... 1.4 mil with Canelo on the undercard...

                    Pac v. Mosley a year later... 1.3 mil horrible undercard

                    Showtime will be kicking themselves if they have to hide the PPV results for another Mayweather fight if he ducks Pacquiao again LOL

                    So you mad that one fighter/Promo-company wants to put on a better show than the other?

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                    • bigfo0t
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                      #80
                      Manny was carrying this sport on his back while Floyd was hiding in "retirement". He has brought in unbelievable numbers of new fans to the sport of Boxing. He has an ENTIRE COUNTRY behind him fully supporting him. He has transcended from being just a Boxing star into a global phenomenon, congressman, pro ball player/coach, etc. with numerous endorsements from all kinds of reputable companies and people. The entire world knows Manny, not Floyd.

                      Floyd is lucky enough Manny agreed to give him the "lion's share" just to get him in the ring, even though he obviously doesn't deserve it (really? $100m for 12rds of boring cowardly "boxing" in survival mode?)

                      If he turns down $100million.. man, honestly who could defend him anymore?

                      @floyd "Just take your f***ing beating like a man and get paid a RIDICULOUS amount of money for it you piece of ****!!"

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