Comments Thread For: De La Hoya To Make a Push For Mayweather-Pacquiao

[radioraheem]

Pacquiao JUST fought in China and made 23M. Dude, he's guaranteed to make at-least 20 against anyone he faces. If he fights Vargas in Vegas he's guaranteed 23M..

While this is true, it comes at a greater loss to HBO. Because by not having good dance partners, the numbers have been on the low side. Floyd has access to better and more relevant dance partners. Pacquaio, because of Top Rank and only because of Top Rank, doesn't have the same.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

All meaning absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things.

-Mayweather fights on Showtime PPV, not on CBS.
-Mayweather hasn't had a contract with Arum since he personally bought out his last deal.
-Ellerbe works for Mayweather Promotions, after spending the prior decade as Mayweather's conduit while Richard Schaefer was working out the deals.
-Floyd Sr has trained Mayweather for maybe 5 of his 47 fights.

and the countless other names brought up have no actual stake in Mayweather's fights, outside of maybe buying a ticket or maybe ordering the show a home.

Mayweather Promotions has it's license to promote the fight, Stephen Espinoza seems to have thrown his lot in with Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Jr is still the sports top draw, and every fighter 160-135 is chomping at the bit to fight him (so he won't be want for opponents).

Floyd's done things his way, and he's not going to get punked into some nonsense by anyone.

I don't agree with about 99% of what check_hooks posts but on the list you responded too, he had a few names that were against the fight who are now calling for it to happen, that was his point and its a good point compared to what you posted. Pac fans are the worst because a fact means nothing to them and they constantly wish pain and death on Mayweather, but Mayweather fans are annoying because they swear up and down boxing will be over when Mayweather retires. Hes the biggest draw in the sport and will probably be the biggest in boxing history, but before him there was Ali, Forman, Tyson, De La Hoya, they're gone and the sports making even more money now. This trend will continue sorry to brake it to you.

[bimhead]

He doesn't deserve $80m, especially with Floyd getting $100m.

Pacquiao-Algieri will maybe do 400k PPV buys and the actual gate in Macau isn't all that impressive (since no one has reported even rumored numbers on the gate, or the assumed site fee).

Floyd Mayweather Jr does double the business that Pacquiao does, and he's got a license to promote his own fights, in Vegas and New York.

the media and internet can spin things however they want, the reality still won't change.

Manny Pacquiao doesn't have a fight available to him that would even get him $20m if he doesn't fight Floyd.

Mayweather Jr vs Khan, vs Danny Garcia, and vs Cotto are all $40m fights for Floyd if he doesn't fight Pacquiao. And Floyd isn't hurting for money, either.

big money for the boxers means higher ppv,ticket costs for the fans...bragging about a boxers deserved earnings is so self defeating for us fans.

[radioraheem]

All meaning absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things.

-Mayweather fights on Showtime PPV, not on CBS.
-Mayweather hasn't had a contract with Arum since he personally bought out his last deal.
-Ellerbe works for Mayweather Promotions, after spending the prior decade as Mayweather's conduit while Richard Schaefer was working out the deals.
-Floyd Sr has trained Mayweather for maybe 5 of his 47 fights.

and the countless other names brought up have no actual stake in Mayweather's fights, outside of maybe buying a ticket or maybe ordering the show a home.

Mayweather Promotions has it's license to promote the fight, Stephen Espinoza seems to have thrown his lot in with Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Jr is still the sports top draw, and every fighter 160-135 is chomping at the bit to fight him (so he won't be want for opponents).

Floyd's done things his way, and he's not going to get punked into some nonsense by anyone.

[-Kev-]

Who could forget Oscar's epic showdown with Steve Forbes???

Journalists love Pacquiao so much, they would lie about when he beat certain fighters to enhance the win. Imagine, the most post popular boxing website, some causal lurker reads this **** and goes around saying Pacquiao TKO'ed DLH the same year Mayweather SD'ed

"Oh, you don't believe me? Here's where I got it from *Links this article*. Bam! In yo face! Proof right there."

[paulf]

Journalists love Pacquiao so much, they would lie about when he beat certain fighters to enhance the win. Imagine, the most post popular boxing website, some causal lurker reads this **** and goes around saying Mayweather TKO'ed DLH the same year Mayweather SD'ed

"Oh, you don't believe me? Here's where I got it from *Links this article*. Bam! In yo face! Proof right there."

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's moreso a case of half-assedly glancing at some dates on Boxrec, but seriously that **** wasn't THAT long ago.... was it? Did they really forget about Oscar looking mediocre as **** against old Stevie?

I mean I remember Mayweather-DLH like it was yesterday. Shit, I remember Pacquiao-Barrera I like it was ****ing yesterday.

God damn it.

[SkillspayBills]

The momentum is strong and it looks like a foregone conclusion now. Let's get this deal done!

[radioraheem]

I don't agree with about 99% of what check_hooks posts but on the list you responded too, he had a few names that were against the fight who are now calling for it to happen, that was his point and its a good point compared to what you posted. Pac fans are the worst because a fact means nothing to them and they constantly wish pain and death on Mayweather, but Mayweather fans are annoying because they swear up and down boxing will be over when Mayweather retires. Hes the biggest draw in the sport and will probably be the biggest in boxing history, but before him there was Ali, Forman, Tyson, De La Hoya, they're gone and the sports making even more money now. This trend will continue sorry to brake it to you.

I really hate saying this, but when Pacquaio and Mayweather depart, boxing will taste that much more of a downfall. And it has to do with the marketing of professional boxing more than anything. It eventually has to make its way back onto main****** outlets in order to do what it used to do in the days of old.

There hasn't really been anyone close to getting the main****** attention these two have gotten. It's so bad that, when you talk to random casuals on the street about boxing, they are literally surprised that it still exists. And their reply is, 'I thought boxing was dead.' And if that's not their response, they only know of Mayweather and Pacquaio. To me, that is an extreme problem. And it's been this way for the past 5 years to make it worse!

If and when Mayweather and Pacquaio fight, then what? What happens after that?

[Rostov Papa]

Dey got the DLH fight dates wrong, doe. It wasn't until December of 2008 that DLH fought Pac, not just 7 months later in December of 2007, after he fought Floyd in May of 2007.

This offer is good if they are also entitled to a percentage of the revenue should it exceed at certain amount. I mean, it's not far fetched to think this fight could make 250,000,000. That's 3 milly and some change PPV buys @ 80 a pop.

Well, I guess the money here might be all they could get since cable companies and of course DLH gotta turn a profit for risking so much dough.

I see some people talking about how this fight would do 5 million buys... Heheh, hell nah... Even at the peak of the hype for this fight, after Pac beat Cotto, and Floyd beat Marquez - is this fight happened in may 2010 - it wouldn't do near that much.

It probably will hover around 3 million give or take some change.

[Scipio2009]

Pacquiao JUST fought in China and made 23M. Dude, he's guaranteed to make at-least 20 against anyone he faces. If he fights Vargas in Vegas he's guaranteed 23M..

Floyd's guarantee for the Maidana fights was 50% MORE than what Pacquiao took on his fight, and that's before counting any of the upside on the actual event (both events are rumored to have done over 900k PPV buys, and the gates for both events were over $14.5m).

The fight isn't going to be sold on PPV in the Phillipines (and I doubt the actual TV rights fee in the Phillipines is actually all that much), so what grounds are there for Floyd to give 55/45 to anyone?

Manny Pacquiao did just short of $8m at the gate in Vegas, and there's not a venue anywhere where Pacquiao even tops that number without Floyd, if we're being honest.

Pacquiao isn't a bigger star than Mayweather in any part of the world, sans the Phillipines and Macau (mainland China still has issues with Filipinos and there's near no history of support for pro boxing, post Mao).