Comments Thread For: De La Hoya To Make a Push For Mayweather-Pacquiao

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Ok... read my post again (the one you were originally replying to) and then read your post again.

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whether Castillo or Maidana had rematch clauses, we are talking about the RUMORS of a ONE-SIDED REMATCH CLAUSE in favor of Mayweather only.

"If I win, end of story, it's over, no rematch, I'm TBE!"
"If I lose, Pac MUST give me a rematch!! or no fight!"

I see nothing wrong with that demand. Its called negotiations, and the perceived A side doing what the A side does. There has not been any legit reports that the fight wont happen due to this request, its you thats making the erroneous connection.

[creekrat77]

No, what im saying is based on history if Mayweather were to win a close controversial decision he would do the rematch. Lets not forget not even De La Hoya got a rematch clause what makes you think Pac will get one?

Floyd Mayweather doesn't give De la Hoya anything. If anything it's Oscar who didn't want the rematch clause. However if there was a rematch clause with Oscar it would've gone both ways because Oscar isn't a spoiled rotten brat with no substance or tact. I'm not trying to be an @sshole but what were dealing with here is Floyd Mayweather and he has shown time and time again that he doesn't give a d@mn about what the fans want. He has lost plenty of respect through the years and would be much more respected if he didn't act so selfishly. And for those talking smack about Golden Boy last time I checked "TMT" just got their promoting license like this summer and the subpar GPB was promoting all of Floyd's fights and giving him a percentage of the take......

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Floyd Mayweather doesn't give De la Hoya anything. If anything it's Oscar who didn't want the rematch clause. However if there was a rematch clause with Oscar it would've gone both ways because Oscar isn't a spoiled rotten brat with no substance or tact. I'm not trying to be an @sshole but what were dealing with here is Floyd Mayweather and he has shown time and time again that he doesn't give a d@mn about what the fans want. He has lost plenty of respect through the years and would be much more respected if he didn't act so selfishly. And for those talking smack about Golden Boy last time I checked "TMT" just got their promoting license like this summer and the subpar GPB was promoting all of Floyd's fights and giving him a percentage of the take......

As I said De La Hoya being the A side didnt even get a rematch clause, I would be surprised if Pac did. And do you consider Pac a spoiled brat? he had a one sided rematch clause against Algieri. Im sure Arum wants a rematch theres a lot of money in it.

And im assuming the part in bold wasnt meant for me because I think it was smart Oscar to through his hat in the ring.

[bigfo0t]

I see nothing wrong with that demand. Its called negotiations, and the perceived A side doing what the A side does. There has not been any legit reports that the fight wont happen due to this request, its you thats making the erroneous connection.

You see nothing wrong with that demand? Really?

If there is going to be a rematch clause in a fight of this magnitude it should apply to BOTH fighters. I never said the fight wasn't going to happen because of that demand, I said it was just a rumor so far, but if it is true then he deserves to be called out on it.

[kafkod]

I really hate saying this, but when Pacquaio and Mayweather depart, boxing will taste that much more of a downfall. And it has to do with the marketing of professional boxing more than anything. It eventually has to make its way back onto mainstream outlets in order to do what it used to do in the days of old.

There hasn't really been anyone close to getting the mainstream attention these two have gotten. It's so bad that, when you talk to random casuals on the street about boxing, they are literally surprised that it still exists. And their reply is, 'I thought boxing was dead.' And if that's not their response, they only know of Mayweather and Pacquaio. To me, that is an extreme problem. And it's been this way for the past 5 years to make it worse!

If and when Mayweather and Pacquaio fight, then what? What happens after that?

I presume this is the USA you are talking about. In other parts of the world - yep, there is life out here - boxing is thriving. Here in the UK we don't get it for free on terrestrial TV most weeks like we did in the old pre cable and satellite days, but as many people as ever watch the big fights via cable and satellite and on-line.
The average British sports fan, not just hard-core boxing fans, knows most of the top UK fighters by name and what's been happening with their careers. Manny and Floyd only stand out from other over-seas stars because both had high profile fights with Ricky Hatton.

[creekrat77]

As I said De La Hoya being the A side didnt even get a rematch clause, I would be surprised if Pac did. And do you consider Pac a spoiled brat? he had a one sided rematch clause against Algieri. Im sure Arum wants a rematch theres a lot of money in it.

And im assuming the part in bold wasnt meant for me because I think it was smart Oscar to through his hat in the ring.

You see nothing wrong with that demand? Really?

If there is going to be a rematch clause in a fight of this magnitude it should apply to BOTH fighters. I never said the fight wasn't going to happen because of that demand, I said it was just a rumor so far, but if it is true then he deserves to be called out on it.

Exactly what I'm saying. There shouldn't be a re-match clause, the winner gets to decide the terms of the re-match. Because Floyd is so insistent on his rematch if he loses then obviously his equal and opponent Manny Pacquiao should get one also if he loses. Oscar and Floyd were not equals to the extent Manny and Floyd are.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You see nothing wrong with that demand? Really?

If there is going to be a rematch clause in a fight of this magnitude it should apply to BOTH fighters. I never said the fight wasn't going to happen because of that demand, I said it was just a rumor so far, but if it is true then he deserves to be called out on it.

Why should it apply to both fighters? As long as it doesnt stop the fight from happening who CARES. If Arum agrees to it good for Mayweather if not good for Pac. I highly doubt a rematch clause is going to derail this fight.

[radioraheem]

No, what im saying is based on history if Mayweather were to win a close controversial decision he would do the rematch. Lets not forget not even De La Hoya got a rematch clause what makes you think Pac will get one?

I agree. If the fight actually happened, and it played out as a close controversial decision in his favor, a rematch would likely happen. All logic and evidence, including financial, points to this. But they will deny this point you're making. And it's mostly because, first they hate him with a passion, and second they don't believe Floyd will fight Pacquaio in the first place.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Exactly what I'm saying. There shouldn't be a re-match clause, the winner gets to decide the terms of the re-match. Because Floyd is so insistent on his rematch if he loses then obviously his equal and opponent Manny Pacquiao should get one also if he loses. Oscar and Floyd were not equals to the extent Manny and Floyd are.

See thats where we disagree Pac and Mayweather are not equals. Mayweather has the upper hand and everybody has pretty much acquiesced to this fact.

[radioraheem]

I presume this is the USA you are talking about. In other parts of the world - yep, there is life out here - boxing is thriving. Here in the UK we don't get it for free on terrestrial TV most weeks like we did in the old pre cable and satellite days, but as many people as ever watch the big fights via cable and satellite and on-line.
The average British sports fan, not just hard-core boxing fans, knows most of the top UK fighters by name and what's been happening with their careers. Manny and Floyd only stand out from other over-seas stars because both had high profile fights with Ricky Hatton.

Yes, I'm speaking of the U.S. Not overseas, hence the points where I mention the lack and huge decline of boxing gyms across the country, and so forth, compared to back in the day.