Comments Thread For: Arum, CBS CEO Set Meeting on Mayweather-Pacquiao

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Yes, but they are still giving all the money to Floyd. His guarantee was never 32 million from HBO, they told him to hit the curb.

There's a reason why it's guaranteed. Because the chances of them being unable to pay it are very, very, very low. It's everything after that becomes a crapshoot. You have a fight that generates $15m at the gate and $60m in PPV sales. You've got sponsors and BoxTV or what have you paying to get in on the action. And you're paying the opponent $2m plus a PPV upside that he probably will never see. They don't need to hit anything to break even because everything after the front end is adjusted on an as-needed basis.

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Hope this fight happens now

You and me both. I think it will. I have seen video and read more than one interview that says Floyd wants to make it too...I just hope Arum really does!

[Evol]

He said basically said Moonvez is a billionaire and he wou not let Floyd run anything. I informed him that he is not a billionaire and that Floyd is possibly worth as much or more than him

I said POSSIBLY worth as much, because the site says FMJ is worth 295 and Moonvez is worth 300mil. Now if the site is wrong or isn't privy to all of their assets or income, then it could be wrong. So, that is why I said "POSSIBLY worth as much or more". It already says he is worth 5 million less, so the less is already covered. I wasn't insinuating anything by it, just correcting the fact that Moonvez isn't a Billinaire. If you don't understand now, I'm not sure how to explain it any other way so that you'll will.

so if they're almost exactly the same in net worth then why would it matters to u who arum talks too? when u said that u were trying to imply that floyd is worth more otherwise u would have never brought it up. but its whatever that was a few pages back im over it already LOL.

[SUBZER0ED]

so if they are really comparable then whats ur point on why is arum talking to les moonves if both floyd and him are really comparable in net worth? i just dont get it, if they're very comparable in net worth then why make such a comment then?

He said basically said Moonvez is a billionaire and he wou not let Floyd run anything. I informed him that he is not a billionaire and that Floyd is possibly worth as much or more than him

I said POSSIBLY worth as much, because the site says FMJ is worth 295 and Moonvez is worth 300mil. Now if the site is wrong or isn't privy to all of their assets or income, then it could be wrong. So, that is why I said "POSSIBLY worth as much or more". It already says he is worth 5 million less, so the less is already covered. I wasn't insinuating anything by it, just correcting the fact that Moonvez isn't a Billinaire. If you don't understand now, I'm not sure how to explain it any other way so that you'll will.

It's not even about who has the greater net worth. Moonves is the head of CBS, which holds Mayweather's contract. As far as his next two fights are concerned, CBS/Showtime is his employer. I don't see them as equal partners. Arum is going right to the top to get the ball rolling on this fight. At some point (provided he and Bob reach a preliminary agreement), Moonves will approach Mayweather and pitch terms of the fight, which of course he can agree to or not.

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I don't think that anything Arum and Manny have said of late hurts the chances of making this fight. It's the biggest fight in terms of interest and potential revenue since Ali vs Frazier 3. They are trying to promote this fight. If Mayweather uses the excuse that he won't fight Pacquiao because he doesn't like what Bob and Manny are saying, he's an even bigger b1tch than I thought.

I agree 100%!

[The Big Dunn]

The Super Bowl is much more expensive than anyone else.. so are the NBA playoffs when Floyd has run ads. Those are big, big amounts of people watching TV not some 5:00 sitcom rating. These are very inflated numbers too that could easily reach 7 figures for a series of commercials being ran as opposed to maybe just one on the Super Bowl. Again though, this was never the topic and you just spin it to some ****** discussion.

Why wouldn't the Showtime person sign off on that? Was Floyd getting 1 million buys before he left Showtime? Yes. He had Oscar, Mosley, Hatton, Marquez and Cotto all do 1 million buys or more, all of them. Why do you think he was money mayweather, he went in there saying I can guarantee you 1 million buys a fight. And you know what, he was right because he had been doing it, what he didn't forsee though was Floyd not fighting draws. He had been doing it, again look at the record.

So once again, looking at it factually it makes all the sense Showtime budgeted in for a 1 million floor for each fight and would expect the same trend. They weren't sold oppponents they were sold PPV and as Floyd being the drawing power and these various opponents (except for Oscar) moved a couple hundred more or less. Guys like Guereero and Maidana are a long way from the Oscar, Cotto and Mosley days of 2.4, 1.5 and 1.4 million buys. (I'm sure Floyd left out Canelo was on almost all those undercards before him)

just a quick point- If you are suggesting they are making less-you'd first have to calculate the cost difference. Floyd also fought 1 time those years, now he is fighting twice.

1.6 x $75=$120 mil
1.4 x $55=$77 mil
1.5 x $60=$90 mil

$120 mil in a year aint bad-and that's not counting any of the theatre tickets or bars/restaurants.

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so if they're almost exactly the same in net worth then why would it matters to u who arum talks too? when u said that u were trying to imply that floyd is worth more otherwise u would have never brought it up. but its whatever that was a few pages back im over it already LOL.

What does Net Worth have to do with Power? Someone can be worth lots more and not have the power, position and connections as someone with much less. I wasn't implying ANYTHING! I didn't say that he shouldn't talk to Moonvez. He is the head of CBS, I hope that he can help make the fight. If he can, more power to him and Arum.

1 more time. The only thing I was doing was correcting the fact that he is not a billionaire and I said as a comparison, that Floyd is worth possibly worth as much or more....that's all!!!

[Beater_of_ass]

There's a reason why it's guaranteed. Because the chances of them being unable to pay it are very, very, very low. It's everything after that becomes a crapshoot. You have a fight that generates $15m at the gate and $60m in PPV sales. You've got sponsors and BoxTV or what have you paying to get in on the action. And you're paying the opponent $2m plus a PPV upside that he probably will never see. They don't need to hit anything to break even because everything after the front end is adjusted on an as-needed basis.

If you think Showtime is doing fine and facts can't convince you then you win. It's like trying to convince a Christain that god is make believe or a fl*mo that he's ducking Manny. It's impossible and rational thinking is something you can't do simple biological. It has nothing to do with brain power it's but it'd be me expecting Paulie to KO Mike Tyson. Physically you are just incapable of rational thinking, and that's okay, we just learn to nod and smile.

[bigjavi973]

By side I meant being a Cotto fan. Boxing is about race papi, you have Big Pun and a PR flag right there in your sig. The race of the fighters affects the draw and location that's all I was bringing up. You are seriously in here defending Bob Arum about a temporary stadium that was never built 3 years ago. I basically said you have to be kidding and then you call me racist... because I said black. Fl*mo and Pact*rd levels of dumb right there, where is Fantasic when you need him?

a temp stadium that was to be built if the fight happened. But to think a stadium is completely imaginary, even though outdoor stadiums HAVE BEEN done before

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It's not even about who has the greater net worth. Moonves is the head of CBS, which holds Mayweather's contract. As far as his next two fights are concerned, CBS/Showtime is his employer. I don't see them as equal partners. Arum is going right to the top to get the ball rolling on this fight. At some point (provided he and Bob reach a preliminary agreement), Moonves will approach Mayweather and pitch terms of the fight, which of course he can agree to or not.

I agree. Although I don't know if the "employer" part is the best discription, I agree 100% with everything else.