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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #151
    Originally posted by megadeth
    I like to debate like an adult, if u can't, I won't! What did I say that was idiotic?



    Work at Mcdonalds? I own my own business and do VERY well thank you. So don't act like you know me.
    Small time weed trafficking isn't owning your own business. As for the money issue, they make the same money. Fine. Floyd isn't involved or has control of CBS' bankroll, this guy does. Keep trying though.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #152
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      you made good points until the last paragraph. They have an out clause-if Floyd wasn't meeting expectations they'd exercise the out. It's ok to speculate they are not happy, but they have made no indication they are parting ways and he has 2 fights and $70 mil or so guaranteed.

      why would they pay him that if the deal is no longer profitable.
      Easily. If they make him fight Manny they will make money, if he doesn't fight Cotto instead they can cut him and save money. They can still make money but it all depends on if Floyd is willing to accept. CBS is giving him the ultimatum right now and if he doesn't accept it then I think they'll just tell him to hit the curb and cut their losses now.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #153
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Moonves has a contract stating Floyd will fight "X" amount of times, but he can't dictate who Floyd will fight. No fight can make what Mayweather vs. Pacquiao could make, but a Mayweather vs. Cotto 2, or Mayweather vs. Khan in the UK, will bring Showtime more money than any other fighter (signed to Showtime) can bring them.
        True-but if you are CBS, you want to maximize money. I think you want Manny 1st-get the 3 mil sales-then you can fight whoever next-Broner, Danny, Thurman.

        IDK if it makes sense to risk alienating people and get more bad press by fighting a Khan next. Cotto is an option-but he seems to be leaning toward Canelo.

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        • megadeth
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          #154
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Why would Greenberg lie about this? While being beholden to GBP and eventually fired for it. But you'd rather believe Schaefer lololol
          Maybe the same reason that Roach would lie about the 1st negotiations being their fault while being beholden to Pac.

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          • Beater_of_ass
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            #155
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Moonves has a contract stating Floyd will fight "X" amount of times, but he can't dictate who Floyd will fight. No fight can make what Mayweather vs. Pacquiao could make, but a Mayweather vs. Cotto 2, or Mayweather vs. Khan in the UK, will bring Showtime more money than any other fighter (signed to Showtime) can bring them.
            How many of you people have ever signed a contract? Obviously you never have because CBS has 800 million lawyers to COVER their ass from any loss. Seriously, Floyd can't even read and you think he's smarter than a 50+ year multi-billion dollar corporation? Of course they can make Floyd fight who they want to, because he hasn't been bringing in the money. I don't know the clause but it has to with the service you provided and what you provided.

            It's like getting a new house built and you have everything you want in it. Except... the toilets don't flush, the sinks don't run, low water pressure, AC isn't working... Well yes, you paid for all those things and got them, but they aren't working. The person who installed that is at fault not you because you were expecting them to work.

            This is no different than Floyd. Yes, they have him on showtime. Yes he is fighting twice a year. They are paying Floyd his $32 million... but, he isn't given them the PPV buys they were expecting. So, it's on Floyd to fix it and the way is to fight Manny or at least someone who has headlined a PPV at least to make SOME money for CBS. Since he hasn't been doing that CBS 100% has the right to say fight this guy because we know we'll make the money we expected when he signed the contract as you did. But... accountability is probably something you never heard of or know the meaning of even.

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            • megadeth
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              #156
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              Small time weed trafficking isn't owning your own business. As for the money issue, they make the same money. Fine. Floyd isn't involved or has control of CBS' bankroll, this guy does. Keep trying though.
              In other words, you came off like a fool insulting me when you didn't know what you were talking about. So now you can't be a humble or act like a man, instead you insult me more. Thanks, I know what u are about now.

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                #157
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                Easily. If they make him fight Manny they will make money, if he doesn't fight Cotto instead they can cut him and save money. They can still make money but it all depends on if Floyd is willing to accept. CBS is giving him the ultimatum right now and if he doesn't accept it then I think they'll just tell him to hit the curb and cut their losses now.
                you have no idea if they are giving him an ultimatum dude. Why make sh-t like that up? All you know is CBS CEO is apparently involved in negotiations.

                Floyd may not have exceeded expectations-but no one else is even close. As for kicking him to the curb-the man has still sold about 4.5 mil ppv's in 4 fights. No other boxer has come anywhere close to that in the last 2 years.

                I get you want Floyd to fail and don't prefer to trumpet any success he may have, but dam BOA at least let the facts drive your opinion.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Easily. If they make him fight Manny they will make money, if he doesn't fight Cotto instead they can cut him and save money. They can still make money but it all depends on if Floyd is willing to accept. CBS is giving him the ultimatum right now and if he doesn't accept it then I think they'll just tell him to hit the curb and cut their losses now.
                  Didn't read that anywhere. Can you tell me when CBS said that?

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by megadeth
                    In other words, you came off like a fool insulting me when you didn't know what you were talking about. So now you can't be a humble or act like a man, instead you insult me more. Thanks, I know what u are about now.
                    You are telling me to be humble when you said "Who is this guy, he makes less than Floyd." So according to you, if your boss makes less money then you shouldn't respect or appreciate what they do? Such humility, you're just mad that I'm clowning on you and have nothing to say back.

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                    • Strategic1
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      STFU!! you sound ******ed. TV networks cancel failed shows after 3 episodes when they have spent money to promote and have shot over a dozen episodes.

                      If they exercise the out-then its safe to say there are issues. If they don't, its because the deal has been profitable for them.

                      I get you hate Floyd but he has proven to be a money generating machine. Set asisde your pettiness and hate and accept the fact CBS, until something changes, is happy the ppv arm of showtime has sold more than 4 mil ppv's in 4 fights.
                      You seem to have missed or ignored my post. There are a number of reasons why they'd keep Floyd even if they're break-even or slightly losing money. They are building their following and brand in boxing. Floyd obviously helps. That's called an investment.

                      Secondly, they know a Floyd-PAC fight will be a huge money fight, so they've always held onto the hopes of doing it or something similar to Floyd-Canelo.

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