Chris Algieri is not a "BUM"

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #1

    Chris Algieri is not a "BUM"

    The kid just fought a ATG legend of the sport and it showed that there are good fighters and there are GREATS...
    He beat a guy in Provodnikov who dismantled Alvarado, gave Bradley his toughest fight ever, and nobody is jumping at the chance to fight at 140.
    I think Chris, the same as a Robert Guerrero, or even Maidana, is a good solid fighter but when you face an ATG, you see the obvious difference in skill set.
    Hope we see the kid back in the ring against top guys at 140. I still think he could beat a Vargas or Herrera or even Garcia if he could avoid the left hook.
    Floyd and Manny are once in a generation talents, instead of downplaying their opponents we should just recognize how great they really are and enjoy it while it lasts cause I don't see anyone coming up with the kind of talent these 2 have brought us.
  • bojangles1987
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    #2
    He's definitely not a bum, but he was never a fight for Manny Pacquiao and we all knew it.

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    • jas
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      #3
      It's
      Nsb post fight.

      This happens all the time

      For the next week troll meter will be super high.

      Algeiri gives anybody problems with his punch out put and legendary conditioning.

      He was too inexperienced to give PAC trouble last night

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      • rocky_balboa23
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        #4
        Definitely. My take is this. there are elite of elites, great boxers, good boxers, mediocre, bad boxer.

        Elite of elites are Ward, Mayweather, and Pacquiao. these guys can make good boxers look ordinary

        Great boxers - like JMM or Bhop can make some noise against these elite of elites

        Good boxers - like Algieri, Guerrero, Bradley definitely have the talent that can win titles

        Mediocre boxers - Provodnikov, Alvarado, Rios. can have some good nights against weak title holders

        and of course the bad boxers club fighters like the Shadow.

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        • Outwest Exp 355
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          #5
          He's not a bum but he's not an elite WW either. He's somewhere in the middle.

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          • BennyST
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            #6
            Well, no. He's not a bum. But let's face it, neither is he world class or top champion material. We won't know for sure for some time, but right now, the guy isn't anything at all to write home about. He won a title off an incredibly limited paper titlist in a lower division and got shown for what he is, as did the guy he won it off. That being a standard top ten contender/domestic level fighter at best. I've got to say though. The fact that Pac can fight this level of opponent with seeming impunity is incredibly laughable.

            Let's put it this way. If another certain someone had fought this guy, particularly after dragging him from a lower division, that certain someone would have been crucified from here to eternity and back for all time ie eternity.

            It's a joke that such a double standard exists and doesn't get looked at with any sense of comparison, because it was bad enough with someone like a veteran, multiple time, multiple division champ coming off a world class win at the peak of his career, let alone someone of this caliber. Funny stuff...in a very, very sad way.

            As for comparing him to Maidana...well, I've already shown that to be absurd really, or even Guerrero. That's also absurd.

            Before this fight, Algieri had fought champions, former and present, a whopping once in his entire career. He'd fought title challengers a whopping great 0 times. Yes, that's zero times. He'd fought top ten contenders a whopping great 0, yes another zero, times too!

            All up, he's fought quite literally **** all. The highest guy he's fought was Taylor, who was rated fourth by the IBF at his best, and about 20-30 in the world rankings. Apart from that comes his only 'top' win, against the limited but sometimes powerful slugger Provodnikov. An arguable decision shall we say, but let's leave it there.

            So, here is a guy with one questionable top win, and nothing else to speak of being compared to two long time, veteran, multiple division and multiple time champions who have proved their worth over and over by fighting and beating the best and doing it against other world rated champions across many years. How do you think to compare these guys again?

            This right here says all you ever need to know about the laughable bias and double standard. Pacquiao fights a literal no name opponent, brand new paper titlist, with literally one questionable top win on his resume, and makes him move up to a catch weight and it gets compared to Maidana and Guerrero. Urgh....this place...

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            • Jsmooth9876
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              #7
              Originally posted by BennyST
              Well, no. He's not a bum. But let's face it, neither is he world class or top champion material. We won't know for sure for some time, but right now, the guy isn't anything at all to write home about. He won a title off an incredibly limited paper titlist in a lower division and got shown for what he is, as did the guy he won it off. That being a standard top ten contender/domestic level fighter at best. I've got to say though. The fact that Pac can fight this level of opponent with seeming impunity is incredibly laughable.

              Let's put it this way. If another certain someone had fought this guy, particularly after dragging him from a lower division, that certain someone would have been crucified from here to eternity and back for all time ie eternity.

              It's a joke that such a double standard exists and doesn't get looked at with any sense of comparison, because it was bad enough with someone like a veteran, multiple time, multiple division champ coming off a world class win at the peak of his career, let alone someone of this caliber. Funny stuff...in a very, very sad way.

              As for comparing him to Maidana...well, I've already shown that to be absurd really, or even Guerrero. That's also absurd.

              Before this fight, Algieri had fought champions, former and present, a whopping once in his entire career. He'd fought title challengers a whopping great 0 times. Yes, that's zero times. He'd fought top ten contenders a whopping great 0, yes another zero, times too!

              All up, he's fought quite literally **** all. The highest guy he's fought was Taylor, who was rated fourth by the IBF at his best, and about 20-30 in the world rankings. Apart from that comes his only 'top' win, against the limited but sometimes powerful slugger Provodnikov. An arguable decision shall we say, but let's leave it there.

              So, here is a guy with one questionable top win, and nothing else to speak of being compared to two long time, veteran, multiple division and multiple time champions who have proved their worth over and over by fighting and beating the best and doing it against other world rated champions across many years. How do you think to compare these guys again?

              This right here says all you ever need to know about the laughable bias and double standard. Pacquiao fights a literal no name opponent, brand new paper titlist, with literally one questionable top win on his resume, and makes him move up to a catch weight and it gets compared to Maidana and Guerrero. Urgh....this place...
              Who exactly have Maidana and Guerrero beat to make them such elite world class fighters as you call them? They both have like 1 good win, same as algieri.
              Manny doesn't run around calling himself "TBE" either, so there's that...

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              • gamefrk
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                #8
                This happens after every Pac fight. Everytime Pac beats someone people say he's a bum. Nothing new here.

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                • MindBat
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                  #9
                  Where do we start?

                  Everyone knows Manny's fighting overseas to avoid paying taxes from US state fights.

                  And he needed a bum... errr.. Alcherry pic... errr... dancing partner which was conveniently provided by uncle Bob.

                  They picked Alcherry before he was ripe then drained him on the scales.

                  So, maybe, perhaps, by some chance, Chris wasn't a straight up bum before the fight.

                  But he sure was one as soon as he stepped off the scales the second time.

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                  • -PBP-
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                    #10
                    He's a very solid boxer. And if you were asking for Pac vs Provo you have no reason to complain.

                    He just wasn't able to find a way out of his cage last night .

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