Did old school boxers have more skills?

[ShoulderRoll]

As a whole previous eras had a richer talent pool, partially because there was a much larger talent pool to begin with, and today, there simply aren't enough trainers with the technical knowledge to pass on to fighters. More and more you see gold glovers becoming trainers etc and that's awesome in one way but at the same time the absence of true masterful boxing minds training many fighters who are more active than fighters are today even at the championship level has an effect on the way boxing is taught and the methodologies passed on in many places.

Good post. For sure the trainers were more knowledgeable in the past.

[Elroy1]

Good post. For sure the trainers were more knowledgeable in the past.

This statement is impossible. And totally ******ed.

It is not even possible in theory that the past trainers were more knowledgeable than the current ones because todays trainers have taken everything from past trainers and built upon or refined it. And they utilise the latest in training aids and researched methods.

It's about as moronic as claiming that 19th century medical doctors were far more knowledgeable than today.

[Mikhnienko]

Modern Boxing stance >>>>>> Old school one's. Plus how far old school are we talking?

Take this opportunity to learn something today. Watch the whole video but 53 seconds and 4:08 are the most pertinent sections.

[AntonTheMeh]

i don't think there's been this mythic quantum leap in skillset and athletic ability that alot of the modern era cheerleaders seem to subscribe to. there is very little that has changed in boxing over the last 75 years and those changes have little to do with what is supposed to take place in the ring.

[Elroy1]

i don't think there's been this mythic quantum leap in skillset and athletic ability that alot of the modern era cheerleaders seem to subscribe to. there is very little that has changed in boxing over the last 75 years and those changes have little to do with what is supposed to take place in the ring.

The difference is skills of modern fighters (about 80s+) favourably compared with the skills of past fighters, is SO STRIKING that there can be no reasonable debate about it and anybody who claims otherwise is either...

- Lying
- Has never actually seen enough representative of both to compare objectively
- Is far below a standard of intelligence enough to make an observation.
- Is brainwashed by the "Old Time Nut Bag" community.

[Biolink]

People wont admit it but those fighters SUCKED. Go back and watch Ray Robinson, he was the absolute best in his era and this dude was slow, flatfooted, and he would swing powershots from his hips. In HIS era he was fast. But this dude is a bum compared to Pac and Floyd.

The only footage of Ray Robinson, he was past prime(but still good). It would be like if we only sawfootageof 147 Floyd without looking at his Lightweight career. Who knows how good/vicious he boxed when still had all of his legs.

[Biolink]

Take this opportunity to learn something today. Watch the whole video but 53 seconds and 4:08 are the most pertinent sections.

Of course there were exceptions, but the modern stance still offers better built in defense. Otherwise why don't we still stand and move like Jim Jeffries?

[MurkaMan]

The only footage of Ray Robinson, he was past prime(but still good). It would be like if we only sawfootageof 147 Floyd without looking at his Lightweight career. Who knows how good/vicious he boxed when still had all of his legs.

True but people look at THOSE bum fights and judge off of that! Besides at 147, Floyd's plus minus shot through the roof! Thats another thing that makes him better to me.

He dedicated himself more, and in his late age he improved. After the Mosley fight, his plus minus was 30, and goes down as the top 3 in boxing history. SRR was a bumazzz fighter Im sorry but this dude SUCKED!

[Elroy1]

MurkaMan I hate Floyd with a passion and have nothing personally against SRR.

Floyd has fought a class of opposition objectively about 500x better than that which Robinson fought!

It's obvious! No boxer can REALLY have 200 fights against QUALITY opponents. When you delete all the bums off the record, you find out that Robinson fought about only 20 decent opponents and struggled with many of these guys.

The guy swings for fences and has zero regard for any kind of defence. He struggled with a punch bag bum called LaMotta, the very definition of limited plodder. And this guy is considered the very EPITOME of boxing skills in times past!

Pathetic!

[Ham Porter]

It's primarily in American boxing that there's been a drastic dip in talent, and it's reflected by the country's increasingly woeful results in international amateur competition.