Pacquiao Vs. Naseem Hamed

[Run]

Man I feel sorry for people that have to defend a ***** like naz

what's the point of this thread genius?

How about a big circle jerk full of ****** smileys and Pac's name followed by misused exclaimation points?

How about we just cut to the chase and say he's the greatest fighter whoever lived?



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[legacyofbrutality]

and about Pacquiao getting dropped, when was the last time that happened? that was years ago, critizing pacquiao now for his chin doesnt work cuz pac's chin is solid now.

[JaNnO]

I think you are the only American/Mexican on these boards that feels the same way I do about Naz... Ok he lost to Barrerra but he also beat a lot of fighters. (I could make 100 valid excuses about the Barrerra fight, but I cant be bothered anymore. People just think I am lieing when I do that, so I will just say Barrerra beat him fair and square).

The main thing I am worried about with Naz is that he will lose his reflexes which he relied on for defence basically, so that could be crucial. Other than that he can retain some of his power and speed, and I dont care what anyone says, he has more power than Pac....

EDIT: The dude who said Naz was in his prime when he lost to Barrerra. I wont even try and argue with you. If you had the capacity to type that in the first place, you certainetly dont have the capacity to understand that Naz was far from his prime in that fight.

I was the dude you were referring to! Not a prime at 26 when MAB beat him, you must be kidding. So you were saying MAB beat a worn-out fighter? Tell that to to his legion of fans. So you think he was in his prime when he beat the aging Kevin Kelly?

I understand, Hamed lost some desire because of boxing politics that resulted to his belts being stripped a few times. But to say that he was not in his prime when he lost to MAB sounds like more an excuse to me. The fact of the matter is, Naz doesn't have the mental toughness to win against an elite fighter like MAB. That was the same reason IMO why he ducked the likes of Marquez and Luisito Espinosa.

EDIT: The dude who said Naz will beat prime Pac based on power. (Thanks for a good laugh, dude! An aging Naz inactive for almost 5 year will beat a prime Pac!). I wont even try and argue with you. If you had the capacity to type that in the first place, you certainly dont have the capacity to understand that power alone is not enough to beat an elite fighter in his prime like Pac.

[The Devil]

Outstanding call. Glad to see there are still some knowledgable fans out there somewhere. Hamed will rack his balls up like they're playing pool.

[EXIGE]

I was the dude you were referring to! Not a prime at 26 when MAB beat him, you must be kidding. So you were saying MAB beat a worn-out fighter? Tell that to to his legion of fans. So you think he was in his prime when he beat the aging Kevin Kelly?

I understand, Hamed lost some desire because of boxing politics that resulted to his belts being stripped a few times. But to say that he was not in his prime when he lost to MAB sounds like more an excuse to me. The fact of the matter is, Naz doesn't have the mental toughness to win against an elite fighter like MAB. That was the same reason IMO why he ducked the likes of Marquez and Luisito Espinosa.

EDIT: The dude who said Naz will beat prime Pac based on power. (Thanks for a good laugh, dude! An aging Naz inactive for almost 5 year will beat a prime Pac!). I wont even try and argue with you. If you had the capacity to type that in the first place, you certainly dont have the capacity to understand that power alone is not enough to beat an elite fighter in his prime like Pac.

Like I said, im not even going to argue with you if you think that Naz was in his prime when he got beat. Naz in his prime beats Barrerra and Morales, straight up.

When did I say he was worn out? I said he wasnt in his prime. (Ie he had better days). Steve Robinson is pretty much his prime, and he would have beaten Barrerra if he had fought him on the same night he fought Robinson...

[legacyofbrutality]

damn it doesnt seem like anyone is ever in their primes after they lose a big fight.

[EXIGE]

damn it doesnt seem like anyone is ever in their primes after they lose a big fight.

No, I knew Naz was on the downfall before he reached Barrerra... I mean Kevin Kelley floored him, but styles make fights so Kevins style was one which gave problems to Hamed... Cesar Soto should have been gone in about 2 ---- seconds that is. Erm, Augie Sanchez got owned, but he put Naz down with a nice right hand, which Naz would have never been caught with 3-4 years earlier.

You got to understand, Naz was getting people out of the ring with single shots in 30 seconds. One of his earlier opponents took 3 shots. 3 shots thrown, 3 shots landed, 1 Knock Out. The funny thing was that the camera was still zooming in for the first round, so we didnt even get to see the first shot - and first KD within like 5 seconds land properly because it was just the start of the fight..

About the pressure fighters, if you ever get the chance to watch Naz - Angeles you will know what I mean. Enrique Angeles is a pressure fighter who was trying to get Naz out of the ring in Round 1... Naz just took his head off, and scored a KD in the first round and Knocked him out in the second.

Trust me when I say this. Naz beats Pac if he gets back to pre America form.

[JaNnO]

I can’t believe that some people on these boards honestly believe that a resurgent Naz almost at 32 and inactive for almost 5 years will beat Pac who is at the peak form of his career. Given, Naz thrived against pressure fighters and knocked them out like timbers but that was when a first grader was still in a crib. Not to mention, Pac has also proven that his opponent is likely to go down when he goes toe-to-toe with him. Isn’t it a fact that Kelly dropped Naz with a right hooks to the head, not once but three times, and isn’t it also fact that Manny is a headhunter and his right hooks was one of the lethal weapons he used to spell the end for Velazquez and Morales just months ago?

Funny but IMO, isn’t it lame to say that ”A prime Naz beats MAB and Erik Morales”? I wonder why one wouldn’t say “A prime Naz beats a prime MAB and prime Erik Morales”? Shouldn’t this statement more suited in Fantasy Fight Forum? Isn’t it funnier that when a fighter, a bull at 26 was suddenly not in his prime when another fighter beat him and exposed him as a non-elite fighter.

Isn’t it funnier when one in gust would say “Christ, the level of ignorance is so ****ing high...”, when he suggests he knows the fact but can’t see through it. I can’t help to notice that the level of arrogance on these boards is so ****ing high.…

[nelsoncm]

I would never bet on an underachiever who quit his career when he got his ass handed to him by a better fighter.

[Roberto_Roldan_]

PAC would KILL Nas look what MAB didi to Nas and look wat Pac did to MAB