Comments Thread For: Roach: Ray Robinson Would F***ing Destroy Mayweather!

[Chris Bauermeis]

Whatever, I hate when people use the comparison of the past about the present. Today's technology and science is better than that of the past. Workout regimes and all is better. You don't toss bricks to gain strength no more, there are machines that works out the whole core to detail. There a thing called film and rewind. There are so many things today that put fighters of the day past their predecessors. The future learn from the past and improve.

If the technology and science is so superior why aren't we seeing it in the ring?????

[!! AI-Holmes!!]

If the technology and science is so superior why aren't we seeing it in the ring?????

And why we haven't gone back to the moon either?

[Chris Bauermeis]

And why we haven't gone back to the moon either?

Fu.ck all that...i'm just asking where is all this science and technology I keep hearing about IN THE RING.?

[Cinci Champ]

No fighter in history is "f.ukking destroying" Mayweather.

ya but people talk about mayweather as tho hes still in his prime. all these guys u mention at floyds age were not fighting at this high a level no matter how good

[Showtime..]

Who is picking Manny's opponents? Who picked Rios over Alvarado, after Rios had just lost to Alvarado? Who picked Algeri over Abregu? Who turned down Danny Garcia after Oscar and Haymon were already onboard? If Maidana, the WBA Welterweight Champion, was hand-picked to avoid a loss, what does that say for Algeri?

November 18, 2014:

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article18505.html

"When asked if he had any say in choosing undefeated WBO jr. welterweight champion Chris Algieri as the opponent for his November 22 return to the ring, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao revealed that the selection was left entirely up to his promoter, Bob Arum. "My promoter chose him to be my opponent. My job is to fight," the 8-division world champion replied when questioned during a group interview with several members of the media.

The news is somewhat surprising considering that both Arum and Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, gave the impression that it was Pacquiao who was mulling the decision on who he would face next following his unanimous decision victory over former welterweight champion Timothy Bradley back in April."

So you'd rather see Abregu get KTFO in the 1st round than an intriguing stylistic matchup in Algieri coming off a big win? Aight then.

[Mr.Daddy]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. can talk all he wants (and I appreciate his skills), but as time goes by his standing among the greats will diminish. Presently his manipulation of the media allows Floyd to look far better than he is; however, fighting against any number of relatively recent greats, I could not see Floyd emerge victorious (Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Pryor, Julio Caesar Chavez, Arguello - to name some). Against prime Sugar Ray Robinson? It would be a man against a child. I'll wager that SRR could beat Floyd near to death if he chose to do so. And if they'd take the gloves off, SRR could hold Floyd up or down with one hand while beating him mercilessly with the other. Perhaps the only advantage Floyd would have over SRR would be Sugar Ray Robinson having to contain his side splitting laughter once he saw Floyd Jr. trying to mount an offensive.

[big_james10]

Ray Robinson would go up into the middleweight division and beat up on 160 lb fiighters because there were no more legitimate challenges at welterweight. He wouldn't bulk up either. Still weighed 147 even when he fought middleweights! Fckin awesome. Damn near won the light heavyweight championship.

Floyd should challenge himself more as Robinson did. That being said TBE by decision.

Floyd has fought and won championships at five weight divisions. With the exception of the 140-pound division, he beat the best opponents in every one of those weight divisions. How the hell has he not challenged himself?

Posters on this site always seem to conveniently forget that Floyd started his career and fought half of his fights at 130. Since the majority of you never saw him fight at 130 or 135, you think he started his career at 147 in 2007. You also forget that Floyd is 37 years old and seven years past his prime. You act as if he is 24 and still in his prime, when in reality, he should have retired years ago.

[big_james10]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. can talk all he wants (and I appreciate his skills), but as time goes by his standing among the greats will diminish. Presently his manipulation of the media allows Floyd to look far better than he is; however, fighting against any number of relatively recent greats, I could not see Floyd emerge victorious (Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Pryor, Julio Caesar Chavez, Arguello - to name some). Against prime Sugar Ray Robinson? It would be a man against a child. I'll wager that SRR could beat Floyd near to death if he chose to do so. And if they'd take the gloves off, SRR could hold Floyd up or down with one hand while beating him mercilessly with the other. Perhaps the only advantage Floyd would have over SRR would be Sugar Ray Robinson having to contain his side splitting laughter once he saw Floyd Jr. trying to mount an offensive.

Every one of those guys you mentioned, except Duran, started their careers at 140 or higher. Floyd started his career at 130. You are comparing apples to oranges. The Leonard and Hearns who fought and won championships at 175 wouldn't stand a chance against Michael Spinks at 175 because that was not their natural or best weight. I believe Floyd, in his prime, would have beaten Duran at 135. However, once he moved up to 140 and 147 he didn't have his same power or speed, so it is not appropriate to compare him, especially at age 37 to a prime SRR or Leonard, Pryor or Arguello.

[texasboi15]

Whatever, I hate when people use the comparison of the past about the present. Today's technology and science is better than that of the past. Workout regimes and all is better. You don't toss bricks to gain strength no more, there are machines that works out the whole core to detail. There a thing called film and rewind. There are so many things today that put fighters of the day past their predecessors. The future learn from the past and improve.

And for this reason alone Floyd would at least make it competitive at least! And not get destroyed like Roach suggests.

Good post.

[texasboi15]

Floyd has fought and won championships at five weight divisions. With the exception of the 140-pound division, he beat the best opponents in every one of those weight divisions. How the hell has he not challenged himself?

Posters on this site always seem to conveniently forget that Floyd started his career and fought half of his fights at 130. Since the majority of you never saw him fight at 130 or 135, you think he started his career at 147 in 2007. You also forget that Floyd is 37 years old and seven years past his prime. You act as if he is 24 and still in his prime, when in reality, he should have retired years ago.

Do you think Floyd is good enough to capture a portion of the middlewight crown?

Because I do.