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  • Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
    50:50 fight.

    Lewis would need to make it a dog fight, in boxing match he looses IMO.

    I made a detailed breakdown 2 years ago. I still think it's 50:50. Actually I am leaning slightly towards Wlad, but I change my opinion quite often.

    I am rare one who thinks that Wlad would give lennox more prob than vitali.
    I agree with this. vitalis an arm puncher and still rocked lewis badly twice in the early rounds. wlad unlike vitali punches through the target and is much quicker and more accurate an has he better jab. vitalio obviously has the better chin and more variety but wlad is better in every other catgeory and would alwys have a better chance of chin checking lennox unlike vitali. I think lennox beats vitali 9 out of 10 times but maybe 5 or 6 out of ten with wlad

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    • Originally posted by beez721 View Post
      I agree with this. vitalis an arm puncher and still rocked lewis badly twice in the early rounds. wlad unlike vitali punches through the target and is much quicker and more accurate an has he better jab. vitalio obviously has the better chin and more variety but wlad is better in every other catgeory and would alwys have a better chance of chin checking lennox unlike vitali. I think lennox beats vitali 9 out of 10 times but maybe 5 or 6 out of ten with wlad
      I have lennox beating vitali 6-7 out of 10, Wlad-lennox 5:5, vitali beating wlad 6,7 out 10...

      styles make fights. Lennox used to have some troubles with good jabbers (example Bruno) + what you said basically.

      I don't think lennox would be able to come close that easy as against that vitali. Wlad is quicker, better footwork and he made absolute art of keeping the guys at distance.

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      • Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
        Klitschko fans love to talk about rematches....except when it comes to Vitali rematching Chris Byrd, or Wladimir rematching Corrie Sanders or Ross Purrity.

        Criticize Lewis for not rematching a WIN, and yet saying nothing about Vitali or Wladimir rematching LOSSES.

        Lewis won the fight and retired.

        Vitali and Wladimir kept fighting, but had to have their brother to avenge their losses.
        Duh.... Ross Purrity priced himself out of the rematch, Wladimir wanted that rematch, do you even follow the sport?
        Corrie Sanders went over to South Africa as I reccall and done absolutely nothing of note that fight wasn't doable because Corrie likely never wanted it after Vitali crushed him.

        Vitali lost to Byrd via a shoulder injury... Prior to the injury he was beating the **** out of him, what is your point?
        Do we need a rematch for that?


        Confirmed you don't follow boxing very well.

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        • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post


          Pulling up punch stats. That's cute newbie. This is pro boxing.
          ^This. Punchstats are two idiots sitting next to each other holding Nintendo controllers.

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          • Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
            Vitali Klitschko, never once non-controversially lost a fight in pro boxing whole career.

            Fact!
            So why didn't Quitali rematch Byrd?

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            • Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
              The underlined bold part made me chuckle, as you did the same thing as before. First, you can explain to me how you can just "take away" about 5 deep facial cuts (that required 60 stitches) and act like they didn't happen. In addition, they weren't in just "one instance", they happened over several rounds of even more power punches. All these cuts shows that they weren't just some freak accident, they were due to PUNCHES, ALL OF THEM. I'm not sure how long you have been following the sport for, but at some point, you (hopefully) realize that fighters are protected from themselves for a reason. I brought up the Norris chin issue simply because like Vitali's cuts, if you take away Norris chin problems, many feel like he would not have lost to Simon Brown in the first fight. What do they have in common? They are both laughable excuses that fans often use to make excuses for their favorite fighters. Bad chins and cuts are all apart of boxing and there is no "taking them away".


              I think you would also agree that the advantage was clearly in Vitali's favor, based on these circumstances. It was NO WHERE NEAR EQUAL. A young, hungry lion that is in shape already vs an out of shape, unmotivated champion that just had an opponent switch? The only thing that was "equal" was the fact that both took the fight on short notice, and Vitali knew a lot more about Lennox than vice versa. Vitali had already been champion even before Lewis so he wasn't just some fringe contender. Make sure your facts are straight.



              Lewis landed the uppercut sometime around the 2 minute mark, and outworked him for the rest of the round with Vitali initiating all of the clinches. Also, at the 15 second mark Lewis landed another right hand, in which Vitali looked like he was out on his feet and nearly drug Lennox to the floor. I suggest you go back and watch the last round only with the suggested times.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alzu9t1CmRM
              Exactly...Vitali was absolutely gone at the end of the last round it was an innocuous right hook that lands on Vitali's temple area, and it is obvious he is out on his feet (well obvious to a trained eye). Would have been interesting if that had happened in the middle of the round, I felt Lennox was definitely not in shape and breathing heavy, but I also felt Vitali had started Wilting, and hadn't paced himself, he set an impossible pace and I think it was down to a lack of experience and the fact that he was fighting on pure adrenaline.

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