Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the ATG heavyweights?

[Daddy T]

top 15 for sure. If he ends his career strongly he'll be top ten in my book.

[Drugs]

Wlad dosen't belong in a top 10 list with other boxing legends. At best I'd put him in a top 50 list. Nowhere near a top ten list though.

[SterlingStained]

i respect wlad and vitali but they are just not great fighters.

they are painful to watch despite the fact that they ko their opponents.

that excessive clinching style will never be embraced by the majority of boxing fans.

i tried to watch the wladimir pulve fight but 1 minute into the fight, wladimir already had 3 clinches.

i turned it off and shaved my genitalia area instead.

true story.

[A-Wolf]

He's not in the top 50 let alone 20 let alone lower than 20. Please.

[The Hammer]

He's not in the top 50 let alone 20 let alone lower than 20. Please.

Are you serious?

[low blows]

i respect wlad and vitali but they are just not great fighters.

they are painful to watch despite the fact that they ko their opponents.

that excessive clinching style will never be embraced by the majority of boxing fans.

i tried to watch the wladimir pulve fight but 1 minute into the fight, wladimir already had 3 clinches.

i turned it off and shaved my genitalia area instead.

true story.

Vitali didn't clinch excessively. Wlad does but no more than Ali did when guys got inside him. In terms of accomplishments Wlad is clearly approaching top 5 and will be in the top 3 if he hangs on for a couple more years. It will be interesting to see if Wilder can beat Stiverne as he or Fury look to be the only guys long enough to hit Wlad while Wlad is on the outside. I'm not sure if Wlad is more than a bare bones top ten heavyweight in a mythical ranking because of the two poor losses to fringe top ten guys in Sanders and Brewster. Brewster lost to the Black Rhino as a prospect.

Vitali on the other hand probably could beat any heavyweight ever because of his iron chin and will to win coupled with his underrated defense. In terms of accomplishments I would ran him in the top 15 as he didn't fight long enough and his opposition like Wlad was mediocre.

[_original_]

You can combine both Wlad's and Vitali's records and it still wouldn't equal top 10 HW material. Between the two, who's the only hall of famer they've faced? A fat and unmotivated Lewis, who still managed to nearly tear apart Vitali's face off.

[Run]

I voted top 10.

The guy who stated not top 50...is trollin'



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[Elroy1]

You can combine both Wlad's and Vitali's records and it still wouldn't equal top 10 HW material. Between the two, who's the only hall of famer they've faced? A fat and unmotivated Lewis, who still managed to nearly tear apart Vitali's face off.

This sort of post should basically be ridiculed out of the house.

They are obviously and undeniably top 5.

Your reasoning is totally flawed.

The HEAVIEST and MOST EXPERIENCED version of Lewis won an extremely LUCKY stoppage against Vitali who was otherwise beating the living **** out of him, hence why he retired instead of the rematch which every official demanded, and he knew he couldn't win.

And the best one was the ATG stuff.

There are obviously no other ATG's present in the Klitschko eras, because for the first time in history, the 2 champions were so unbelievably good that no other ATG's had a chance to arise! Hence why ATG is meaningless and worthless!

[_original_]

This sort of post should basically be ridiculed out of the house.

They are obviously and undeniably top 5.

Your reasoning is totally flawed.

The HEAVIEST and MOST EXPERIENCED version of Lewis won an extremely LUCKY stoppage against Vitali who was otherwise beating the living **** out of him, hence why he retired instead of the rematch which every official demanded, and he knew he couldn't win.

And the best one was the ATG stuff.

There are obviously no other ATG's present in the Klitschko eras, because for the first time in history, the 2 champions were so unbelievably good that no other ATG's had a chance to arise! Hence why ATG is meaningless and worthless!

Yes, because it couldn't possibly be because the division is absolute shit? In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

You can say what you want but the truth is, the Klit bro's are 0-1 combined against hall of famers. Not top 10 material, sorry.