Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: If I Do Well, I Could Easily Be at 140 Next

[megadeth]

Pac can't fight anyone at 147 except Bradley and Marquez, who he has faced in 6 fights already. Knocking Pac for not fighting the likes of Porter and Thurman is like criticising Floyd for not fighting Bradley.

Not really. Pac had the opportunity to do something different. He recently signed an extension to fight nobodies, when he could've been a free agent, got paid better and would've been able to make fights like Porter, Thurman etc.

[ADP02]

Why don't you stop with this nonesense. Floyd was coming off an almost 2 year layoff. I could see MAYBE if Floyd was the type that bulked up 10-15lbs after the weigh in, but he doesn't He weighed in 2lbs higher than Marquez and came into the ring the same as he always does. There was possibly 2-3lbs seperating him and Marquez in the ring. The very same amount that has seperated him and Pac in the ring.

So you really make sense (NOT).
Floyd had already fought at 147 and even at 154. Yes he took a break but what does that have to do with taking on a guy who had just moved up from 130 to 135? By the way, it was closer to 21 months layoff PLUS there original date was postponed by several months. So it was closer to 19 months layoff. There is more on this. See my Mosley comment below since you asked.

You try to explain weight but the problem again is where and who Marquez was used to fighting. That is, other fighters who weighed in at 130 and then for 2 fights below 135. Sorry but I don't buy your excuses. Its not the same as someone who comes in at 146! If it was the same thing then Floyd could have fought Marquez at 135 but we all know that Floyd couldn't even make 144!!!! See the problem with your excuse, I mean logic? So the only nonsense is coming from you.

Unfortunately, Arum doesn't agree with you. So why would u keep perpetuating this crap if Arum says differenty? He offered Margarito and Floyd accepted but wanted to be paid well and wanted the ODLH fight as well for the right amount. Not to mention, do you think for one second that Arum would've let that fight go through if Floyd had not signed an extension with TR?? We all know he wouldn't have. Floyd bought out his contract and history as well as his bank account shows that he did right thing. Funny though that u mentioned the Margarito fight for Floyd, when he didn't turn that down, he just wanted the right amont of money. Yet somehow, you chose NOT to use Mosley BEGGING Pac to fight him when he was the was most profitable oppnent giving the most, and a p4p fighter, but was denied. I know, you have an excuse as to why that wasn't a duck, right?

Floyd accepted to fight Margarito? Do you know what that means? Accepted means that we have a fight. Your definition is quite different. If Floyd wanted the fight it would have been made.

Floyd didn't take the Margarito fight for $7 million just so he can make ....... $7 million (less $750,00 to leave TR) to fight Baldomir. No guarantees by anyone else for any other fight at that point in time. Remember that.

Oscar? What does that have to do with Margarito?
What did Floyd tell Canelo when he did something similar? Floyd and his fans said something like this "Who does that? Canelo can even lose to Trout then what? Take care of your business with Trout then negotiate with Floyd. One has nothing to do with the other."

Only Floyd can't make fights with other Top Rank fighters when he is being promoted by TR and when he is not!

I want to see you somehow make Mosley an "exclusion".

Mosley: I don't need to make the exclusions. You just did it for me when you brought up that excuse for Floyd. You know, Floyd was on a long layoff, so fighting guys nearly 3 weight divisions lower is acceptable. So now if you also take into account that Mosley was old. Using your excuse, I mean logic, Mosley should not have been fighting a top fighter like Floyd after that long layoff.

So at least you agree that Floyd should get very little credit for the Mosley win.




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Really? you consider that a cherry pick? Mayweather was coming off more then a year layoff 3 months shy of 2 years, and fought a guy who was considered among the top 5 pound for pound on most lists.

As far as Margarito, Mayweather had an equal offer to face Baldomire, do you know what the difference was? The WBC World welterweight title, why was winning that title more important and the smartest career/business move? Because It led to Mayweather holding a title with a sanctioning body where the biggest cash cow in boxing was also holding a title in that same sanctioning body 1 weight division above. Mayweather defeating Balodomire led to the De La Hoya fight because of the sanctioning body WBC. This cannot be construed as a duck. You want to say well he could have fought him after well Margarito lost to Paul Williams.

Danny Garcia fighting Rod Salka is a cherry pick. There is no Rod Salka's on Mayweathers resume.

Maidana signing to fight Thurman then backing out after seeing video of Thurman is a duck.

Im curious what do you think of Pac's career?

You posted just like Megadeth. Shake hands Floydie fans.

See my post above for the reply.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You posted just like Megadeth. Shake hands Floydie fans.

See my post above for the reply.

LMAO at your response, your delusional. Im a fan of Pac as well the difference is im not ****** or bias. And the reality is if your diminishing Floyd Mayweathers career then your doing the same for Pac's and the funny thing is you dont even know it.

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LMAO at your response, your delusional. Im a fan of Pac as well the difference is im not ****** or bias. And the reality is if your diminishing Floyd Mayweathers career then your doing the same for Pac's and the funny thing is you dont even know it.

Sure I like Manny more than Floyd but sorry I'm being as objective as possible.

If a fighter was clearly past it, he was clearly past it. It doesn't matter who fought him. Yes that includes Manny. You must be new because I already said that about when Manny fought Mosley. See? Floyd fought Mosley only a year earlier but Mosley was rusty as nails. So they fought an equally bad version of Mosley. You can only give them so much credit. NOT MORE!

The previous post I mentioned that I brought up several times that I wasn't too thrilled about the Algieri fight. Lets see some Floyd fans do the same and I'm talking about those die hard Floyd fans that can't say anything bad about their hero Floyd.

So now its 2 opponents that I mentioned for Manny. So if I bring it up for Manny, you better believe that I will bring it up to Mr cherry picker, Floyd! ......

BTW - Floyd admits to his cherry picking. So stop defending him!

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Sure I like Manny more than Floyd but sorry I'm being as objective as possible.

If a fighter was clearly past it, he was clearly past it. It doesn't matter who fought him. Yes that includes Manny. You must be new because I already said that about when Manny fought Mosley. See? Floyd fought Mosley only a year earlier but Mosley was rusty as nails. So they fought an equally bad version of Mosley. You can only give them so much credit. NOT MORE!

The previous post I mentioned that I brought up several times that I wasn't too thrilled about the Algieri fight. Lets see some Floyd fans do the same and I'm talking about those die hard Floyd fans that can't say anything bad about their hero Floyd.

So now its 2 opponents that I mentioned for Manny. So if I bring it up for Manny, you better believe that I will bring it up to Mr cherry picker, Floyd! ......

BTW - Floyd admits to his cherry picking. So stop defending him!

Defending? No you have an opinion and i have one, my opinion is that people who dont like Mayweather down play his achievements while propping up Pac's when both these men have done what no one else has ever done in the
sport of boxing. And many of Pac's wins are against guys Maywather already beat, catch weights and fighters coming off of losses, yet I read time and time again how Pac's resume is better then Mayweathers. There careers and resumes are extremely comparable, almost even.

Pac fought Mosely as a title defense, Mosley was coming off of a draw on an espn televised fight and a loss to Mayweather, Mayweather fought Mosley for a world title coming off one of the biggest wins in Mosleys career against Margarito, a KO against Mayorga and a close loss against Cotto. The two fights are not comparable, and the fact that you consider them comparable reveals your bias.

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Defending? No you have an opinion and i have one, my opinion is that people who dont like Mayweather down play his achievements while propping up Pac's when both these men have done what no one else has ever done in the
sport of boxing. And many of Pac's wins are against guys Maywather already beat, catch weights and fighters coming off of losses, yet I read time and time again how Pac's resume is better then Mayweathers. There careers and resumes are extremely comparable, almost even.

Pac fought Mosely as a title defense, Mosley was coming off of a draw on an espn televised fight and a loss to Mayweather, Mayweather fought Mosley for a world title coming off one of the biggest wins in Mosleys career against Margarito, a KO against Mayorga and a close loss against Cotto. The two fights are not comparable, and the fact that you consider them comparable reveals your bias.

YOU and some others here have the courage to post from 2 sides of your mouth, I see.

First you defend Floyd for picking Marquez because he had a layoff of 19 months (original fight date) then forget all about OLD Mosley not fighting for about 16 months! I even reminded you guys and still, same answer from YOU! When you think about it further, the Mosley vs Floyd fight, there was more time elapsed between the Margarito win than when Mosley fought Manny. Plus, when he fought Manny, Mosley was no longer inactive as he had fights with Floyd and Mora.

BTW - Mosley struggled with Mayorga but pulled out a KO late in that one. While with Margarito, Margarito had something on his mind that night. He was just caught with them bricks in his hands.

Mosley always came into his fights in good shape. Yet against Floyd, he was gassed after a couple of rounds. His corner also was concerned.

The Mosley we knew did NOT fight Manny nor Floyd.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

YOU and some others here have the courage to post from 2 sides of your mouth, I see.

First you defend Floyd for picking Marquez because he had a layoff of 19 months (original fight date) then forget all about OLD Mosley not fighting for about 16 months! I even reminded you guys and still, same answer from YOU! When you think about it further, the Mosley vs Floyd fight, there was more time elapsed between the Margarito win than when Mosley fought Manny. Plus, when he fought Manny, Mosley was no longer inactive as he had fights with Floyd and Mora.

BTW - Mosley struggled with Mayorga but pulled out a KO late in that one. While with Margarito, Margarito had something on his mind that night. He was just caught with them bricks in his hands.

Mosley always came into his fights in good shape. Yet against Floyd, he was gassed after a couple of rounds. His corner also was concerned.

The Mosley we knew did NOT fight Manny nor Floyd.

I now understand your confusion. The problem is your rating the result of the performance. Hindsites 20-20. The FACT is Floyd fought a Mosley that looked strong and was coming off a big victory. No one expected Mosley to have that showing, however everyone knew what Mosley Pac was fighting, it was evident, just how its evident your bias.

[Showtime..]

I now understand your confusion. The problem is your rating the result of the performance. Hindsites 20-20. The FACT is Floyd fought a Mosley that looked strong and was coming off a big victory. No one expected Mosley to have that showing, however everyone knew what Mosley Pac was fighting, it was evident, just how its evident your bias.

PAC-Mosley was more of a PPV decision on the fallback that Floyd fight didn't happen(it didnt). It still sold a hell of a lot of PPV's because of the names involved.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

PAC-Mosley was more of a PPV decision on the fallback that Floyd fight didn't happen(it didnt). It still sold a hell of a lot of PPV's because of the names involved.

thats fair but the two situations are not comparable.