Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: If I Do Well, I Could Easily Be at 140 Next

[Chrismart]

There are a few fights at 140 id like to see Pacquiao in..Garcia (if he sticks around), Lucas M, Ruslan, Crawford when he moves up. Whether or not they're realistic fight, i don't know.
I can't seem him fighting at 135 again to be honest.

[ADP02]

One minute Pacquiao isn't a WW the next he is. If JMM and Bradley fought at a HW limit does that make them top HW's?

If someone beats the man at WW, then they get high considerations. Bradley and Marquez beat one of the 2 top WWs who was also #2 P4P. Manny was consistently beating WW fighters and for many years.

Yes, Manny is a relatively small WW but due to his other assets he was able to do what he did at WW.

All those that I had named (Floyd's opponents) didn't beat anyone close to someone with Manny's resume. Beating Broner is not enough in my books. Especially if you lost to Devon Alexander and didn't look too good against some others. If he fought those opponents with pillow gloves, Maidana may have lost to others too. This example is against one of Floyd's better cherry picks. Then there are those who did nothing at WW before and after losing their fight with Floyd.

[twosweethooks]

Pac being a little fighter in stature became the GIANT KILLER: FACT

Pac fought the prime elites of the day:

Cotto , Clottey, Margo, Bradley TWICE

He destroyed a bigger Hatton

He destroyed and old ODH and Mosley

Fact : May Jr has YET to face a Prime WW elite in the past 10 years or EVER !

He has fought guys that came from Lower weights as well as Pac.

Cotto came from 140, Pac fought him Prime, Jr ducked Cotto in Prime.

Pac fought Margo prime, Jr blatantly ducked Margo prime.

Jr would have had no problem fighting Pac in PRIME ,,,,,,,IF ,,,,,,,,,,, he had wanted too.

Jr chose the DUCK route and is the Best at it.

The Duck is quite, but will start Quacking soon"peeleft:

[junior gong]

I think its finally dawned on him that floyd isnt ever going to fight him. Like the rest of us he's probably sick of Froid's cowardice.

[Crazylegs77]

Couple of questions

1-how do you walk around at 140..but have to get down to 147?

2-If you are going to 140 why do you keep mentioning Floyd in the build up of this fight?

1) True it seems counterintuitive

2) Mayweather isnt a natural WW doe
For him to be putting on a helluva show against drained middleweights at 154 is tremendous doe
Sport of boxing doe
um um um doe
Hard work, dedication doe

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Floyd said it himself that he is allowed to cherry pick.
Floyd said it himself, 'Does Manny want to fight me? Absolutely he does but I'm not desperate"
Floyd said it himself "Manny is my mandatory? He can have my belt...."

Floyd didn't want to take the risky path. He took the easier path. I'm OK with that but then don't come back and say that he did which is NOT true.

Floyd didn't fight Sergio Martinez, P Williams, Winky, Margarito, Manny, undefeated Cotto, younger versions of Oscar and Mosley. Why?

They are NOT all promoted by Arum and some were when even Floyd was with Arum!

Ok your post is wrong on so many levels, and I will prove it with facts, facts that you can Google. Sergio Martinez was not a contender at welterweight, he fought a bunch of nobodies at light welter weight won one major title, he fought a few non-ranked opponents at welterweight then moved to light middleweight in 2003.
Paul Williams defeated margarito for the wbo title in a fight that was forced on top rank because Arum didn't want it to happen, then Williams lost the title to Quintana, then Williams chased Quintana for a rematch, then Williams chased Margaritto for a rematch be cause Margaritto was ranked #1 to Cottos WBA title and Arum would not allow the fight so Williams moved up. again his camp NEVER contacted Mayweathers camp to negotiate a fight, just because Williams said Mayweathers name means nothing.
Winky was never a welterweight so I'm not sure where your going with that.
Margaritto lost his rank in the Wbo to Williams, and was never in anyway considered a threat or challenger to Mayweather, not ranked in the Wbc, and on a path to fight Cotto which was planned by Arum.
De La Hoya was no longer with top rank and Mayweather was, Arum blocked the fight while Mayweather was requesting it. Arum finally let the fight happen and it is well known that he purposely tanked the promotions and that was the last time Floyd fought under top rank.
it is also common knowledge that Mosley ducked Mayweather, refused to negotiate and said he had to nurse a toothache.
Cotto was with top rank fight wouldn't have happened, but Cotto and his camp at the time are on record saying Cotto wasn't ready to face Mayweather at that time.

This is what facts are. Not your version of revisionist history

[TMTForever]

Pac being a little fighter in stature became the GIANT KILLER: FACT

Pac fought the prime elites of the day:

Cotto , Clottey, Margo, Bradley TWICE

He destroyed a bigger Hatton

He destroyed and old ODH and Mosley

Fact : May Jr has YET to face a Prime WW elite in the past 10 years or EVER !

He has fought guys that came from Lower weights as well as Pac.

Cotto came from 140, Pac fought him Prime, Jr ducked Cotto in Prime.

Pac fought Margo prime, Jr blatantly ducked Margo prime.

Jr would have had no problem fighting Pac in PRIME ,,,,,,,IF ,,,,,,,,,,, he had wanted too.

Jr chose the DUCK route and is the Best at it.

The Duck is quite, but will start Quacking soon"peeleft:

this is what syphilis does to the brain..lmao

[Xi_]

1) True it seems counterintuitive

2) Mayweather isnt a natural WW doe
For him to be putting on a helluva show against drained middleweights at 154 is tremendous doe
Sport of boxing doe
um um um doe
Hard work, dedication doe

canelo was 153 against trout.....one pound isn't a big deal. isn't that what pacf@gs claim when the cotto cw is brought up?

[ADP02]

Ok your post is wrong on so many levels, and I will prove it with facts, facts that you can Google. Sergio Martinez was not a contender at welterweight, he fought a bunch of nobodies at light welter weight won one major title, he fought a few non-ranked opponents at welterweight then moved to light middleweight in 2003.
Paul Williams defeated margarito for the wbo title in a fight that was forced on top rank because Arum didn't want it to happen, then Williams lost the title to Quintana, then Williams chased Quintana for a rematch, then Williams chased Margaritto for a rematch be cause Margaritto was ranked #1 to Cottos WBA title and Arum would not allow the fight so Williams moved up. again his camp NEVER contacted Mayweathers camp to negotiate a fight, just because Williams said Mayweathers name means nothing.
Winky was never a welterweight so I'm not sure where your going with that.
Margaritto lost his rank in the Wbo to Williams, and was never in anyway considered a threat or challenger to Mayweather, not ranked in the Wbc, and on a path to fight Cotto which was planned by Arum.
De La Hoya was no longer with top rank and Mayweather was, Arum blocked the fight while Mayweather was requesting it. Arum finally let the fight happen and it is well known that he purposely tanked the promotions and that was the last time Floyd fought under top rank.
it is also common knowledge that Mosley ducked Mayweather, refused to negotiate and said he had to nurse a toothache.
Cotto was with top rank fight wouldn't have happened, but Cotto and his camp at the time are on record saying Cotto wasn't ready to face Mayweather at that time.

This is what facts are. Not your version of revisionist history

Sergio Martinez:
In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473

In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again
http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd

In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 / 20 split with Mayweather
http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/




P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.

"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."

"I can make 147 lbs ...."

http://www.examiner .com/article/pau...-have-a-vagina



Cotto and Margarito:
All 3 were with Top Rank at one point. If Floyd wanted those fights, they would have happened. Arum had Margarito wait and wait for Floyd. Floyd fought Baldomir instead.
Floyd said that he always was su****ious of Margarito and knew he shouldn't fight him.
Floyd in ~2007 said that he didn't want to fight Cotto.


Mosley:
Mosley had fought twice that year and had a planned vacation with his family. Mosley told Floyd to wait a few more months then they can get it on. Floyd said no and fought early February. Floyd fought in November. Floyd couldn't wait a few months? Why? Remember that Floyd even announced that he would retire. Would you take on Mosley or Baldomir before you retire?

Mosley called out Floyd all of 2007-2010. Mosley fought Oscar 2X, Winky 2X, undefeated Cotto, the Margarito that beat, Cotto, Vernon Forrest 2X, Manny Pacquiao, ..... Mosley fought opponents that were much more dangerous than Floyd ever was.So why duck Floyd in 2006 then call him out from 2007-2010?

Winky:
Floyd called out Winky. Winky said OK to all demands. Floyd changed the demands last second as Winky's team was coming to sign.


I guess you didn't google enough because you are wrong son!


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[Jsmooth9876]

Sergio Martinez:
In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473

In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again
http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd

In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 ***8211; 20 split with Mayweather
http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/




P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.

"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."

"I can make 147 lbs ...."

http://www.examiner .com/article/pau...-have-a-vagina



Cotto and Margarito:
All 3 were with Top Rank at one point. If Floyd wanted those fights, they would have happened. Arum had Margarito wait and wait for Floyd. Floyd fought Baldomir instead.
Floyd said that he always was su****ious of Margarito and knew he shouldn't fight him.
Floyd in ~2007 said that he didn't want to fight Cotto.


Mosley:
Mosley had fought twice that year and had a planned vacation with his family. Mosley told Floyd to wait a few more months then they can get it on. Floyd said no and fought early February. Floyd fought in November. Floyd couldn't wait a few months? Why? Remember that Floyd even announced that he would retire. Would you take on Mosley or Baldomir before you retire?

Mosley called out Floyd all of 2007-2010. Mosley fought Oscar 2X, Winky 2X, undefeated Cotto, the Margarito that beat, Cotto, Vernon Forrest 2X, Manny Pacquiao, ..... Mosley fought opponents that were much more dangerous than Floyd ever was.So why duck Floyd in 2006 then call him out from 2007-2010?

Winky:
Floyd called out Winky. Winky said OK to all demands. Floyd changed the demands last second as Winky's team was coming to sign.

I guess you didn't google enough because you are wrong son!

Oh they gonna be mad at you lol....