Golovkin - Not so great.

[Weebler I]

Not discrediting him. Just making a point. Golovkin has fought No One.

Since you used amateur losses to discredit him which was actually an Olympic final, you're willing to acknowledge his amateur wins, yes? Andre Dirrell, Lucian Bute, Mike Perez, Geale (am & pro)...

You fancy Lara's chances? Kid Chocolate? I don't.

[Psylence83]

The MW division is fu@king **** at the moment!!!

[dan_cov]

That post got me thinking what do you guys consider more impressive beating opponents who was outstanding amateurs that didn't turn pro or beating rather ordinary/decent, but not great amateurs that turned pro and had good success in the pro ranks?

[Psylence83]

That post got me thinking what do you guys consider more impressive beating opponents who was outstanding amateurs that didn't turn pro or beating rather ordinary/decent, but not great amateurs that turned pro and had good success in the pro ranks?

That's a good question.... And a huge debate I think if you look at it level headed. There a lot to consider really!!!

[Psylence83]

That post got me thinking what do you guys consider more impressive beating opponents who was outstanding amateurs that didn't turn pro or beating rather ordinary/decent, but not great amateurs that turned pro and had good success in the pro ranks?

That's a good question.... And a huge debate I think if you look at it level headed. There a lot to consider really!!!

As a basic example I know turning pro can be the old case of its not what you know but who you know.....or who you are...kimbo slice??? I'm damn sure there are plenty of am's who would school him!
That's prob a **** example but it's one thing to consider!!

[Citizen Koba]

GGG lost to Despaigne in the amateurs too but no shame there Despaigne was a very good amateur. Does surprise me he lost to Gutnecht just before he turned pro though.

You can't buy into amateur losses especially at the top level when they're fighting so often and encountering all sorts of styles. The judging can be as bad if not worse than the pros too. I've seen some shocking decisions in the amateurs

When did GGG lose to Despaigne in the ams?

I'm not sure most would count the 2004 Olympic Test Event, but maybe there's some accredited competition I've missed?

[hugh grant]

Triple g is ko'ing everyone he faces, so you cant ask more than that. There are many boxers who win on points all the time, but believe me if they could stop their opponents theyd be happier and so would their fans, you dont get paid for overtime.

Some people would have you believe winning on points is superior to koing someone when you want and taking it out of the judges hands. The judges are subjective so you never know what is going to happen.

[Chris Bauermeis]

Triple g is ko'ing everyone he faces, so you cant ask more than that. There are many boxers who win on points all the time, but believe me if they could stop their opponents theyd be happier and so would their fans, you dont get paid for overtime.

Some people would have you believe winning on points is superior to koing someone when you want and taking it out of the judges hands. The judges are subjective so you never know what is going to happen.

He should KO those no hopers in that dead division.

Funny how he's not required to challenge himself and take more risks.
He's one of the oldest champs at 160 and has very little to show for it.

The guys he is fighting are not helping him become a better fighter or prepare him for a guy like Ward.

[vorgaphe]

Man, this is the second nutty post I've seen from you. So when the big name fighters avoid the lesser known Golovkin it's a duck but when Golovkin doesn't want to fight Ward because it's not a big fight...what do you call that? Really think about what you're saying here and go do some soul searching because hypocrisy like this is disturbing.

Yeah GGG's ducking a retired fighter in the weight class above him.

[joesaiditstrue]

Man, this is the second nutty post I've seen from you. So when the big name fighters avoid the lesser known Golovkin it's a duck but when Golovkin doesn't want to fight Ward because it's not a big fight...what do you call that? Really think about what you're saying here and go do some soul searching because hypocrisy like this is disturbing.

You're equating Golovkins drawing power to who exactly? Lara? LMAO. People cant duck Golovkin and say its because nobody knows him. His last 3 opponents all made career high paydays. GGG is second in drawing power at 160 only to Cotto.