In the long run alhaymon could be great for BOXING

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  • wiz1030
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    #11
    Originally posted by PRchamp
    Haymon and his fans will live off the Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthyse for 4 years and is the only fight in which Haymon had to put in his toys in to fight each other.
    Broner Maidana doe!



    I do find it amusing how much faith fans have in Haymon (the ones that do). The rest of us know what he's good for through historical evidence, and we'll believe he'll be a positive for the sport and fans when we have the evidence to prove it. Maybe this NBC deal is going to be it, but until we're proven otherwise he's been a detriment to the sport by seemingly having always been behind match ups not happening that the fans are craving.

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    • mikinoki
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      #12
      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
      I've found it amusing that for years people cried about wanting a UFC model as well as marquee matchups back on network television, but since it's Haymon and he is associated with Floyd, it has to be a bad thing to the muppets on here.
      we wanted the ufc model because the best fought the best and al haymond does the oposite of thet

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      • billeau2
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rudiamonds
        http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/10/2...boxing-back-to


        I know this is a lik old but it a good article
        Why do fighters need promoters? What integral function does Hayman provide? If he is a money manager, or sports agent then be a sports agent...be a money manager. If he is a manager then lay off the ******** and grab the mitts Al!

        At least Dana White manages a league, he sees to it that the best fights are made based primarily on performance. Furthermore White likes the sport. If promoters were not part of the equation boxing would get more coverage because when you are not paying a Greedy bastard you can afford to have the fights on regular television....like they used to.

        These guys have everyone brainwashed thinking they add value, if Arum's crusty ass and his like were booted to the curb and fighters had a league and had to fight the best fights, like Danna does, Pac would be fighting Floyd.
        Instead the Haymans Arums and Kings have to get paid...

        So tell me again....WHAT IN FVCS NAME DOES HAYMON DO FOR BOXING?

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          #14
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
          I've found it amusing that for years people cried about wanting a UFC model as well as marquee matchups back on network television, but since it's Haymon and he is associated with Floyd, it has to be a bad thing to the muppets on here.
          The UFC model is not perfect....But what does that have to do with scumbags like Haymon?

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          • mikinoki
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            #15
            Originally posted by billeau2
            Why do fighters need promoters? What integral function does Hayman provide? If he is a money manager, or sports agent then be a sports agent...be a money manager. If he is a manager then lay off the ******** and grab the mitts Al!

            At least Dana White manages a league, he sees to it that the best fights are made based primarily on performance. Furthermore White likes the sport. If promoters were not part of the equation boxing would get more coverage because when you are not paying a Greedy bastard you can afford to have the fights on regular television....like they used to.

            These guys have everyone brainwashed thinking they add value, if Arum's crusty ass and his like were booted to the curb and fighters had a league and had to fight the best fights, like Danna does, Pac would be fighting Floyd.
            Instead the Haymans Arums and Kings have to get paid...

            So tell me again....WHAT IN FVCS NAME DOES HAYMON DO FOR BOXING?
            he makes followers follow him"peeleft:

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              #16
              Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
              Are you that thick you don't realize your first sentence is precisely what enables your third one?
              No dimwit, they have no relationship whatsoever. There's nothing stopping fights like Kovalev-Hopkins from happening when they have different promoters. They aren't under a single banner.

              There are specific people who are in the ducking business and Haymon is one of them. If we had a "Haymon Fighting Championship", it would consist of year-round showcase/exhibition matches and one "showdown" every couple years, just like he does with the fighters he already has. Why would this suddenly change when he "runs everything"? Does some kind of magical spiritual renovation occur when you own every fighter instead of most of them?

              You are trying to confuse and overgeneralize to leap to Al Haymon's defense: May I ask why? How did this guy who isn't even a boxer get diehard "fans"?
              Last edited by ////; 11-11-2014, 06:14 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TotalStud
                No dimwit, they have no relationship whatsoever. There's nothing stopping fights like Kovalev-Hopkins from happening when they have different promoters. They aren't under a single banner.

                There are specific people who are in the ducking business and Haymon is one of them. If we had a "Haymon Fighting Championship", it would consist of year-round showcase/exhibition matches and one "showdown" every couple years, just like he does with the fighters he already has. Why would this suddenly change when he "runs everything"? Does some kind of magical spiritual renovation occur when you own every fighter instead of most of them?

                You are trying to confuse and overgeneralize to leap to Al Haymon's defense: May I ask why? How did this guy who isn't even a boxer get diehard "fans"?
                The only people claiming to know what Haymon is doing are the same idiots who jump to conclusions day 1 on everything. I don't know what he's planning and neither do you. It's naive of you to think that because one decent fight got made it instantly does away with decades of fights that weren't made or were made too late. We were screwed out of JuanMa-Gamboa twice and they were with the same promoter. It's like people on here think because something is new to them, it's new to boxing. He gave us Alvarez - Mayweather, the biggest fight by far in 8 years.

                People want to ***** about Garcia fighting a soft touch after a fight many thought he lost, meanwhile a guy like Pacquiao has had 1 decent fight in almost 2 years and it was what most considered an unwarranted rematch. People are mad at Haymon for doing a better job than the other sketchy ass figures in the sport.

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                • MeatyPie
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                  #18
                  Hey guys. I'll have to go back and forth between the ages. The other side of the day. I'm a little bit more than a year and a half hour or two. I will not be the same time as a friend. I'll be back.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                    In the long-run ebola could be great for West Africa.
                    Lmfao.....this is how I'd compare it too..

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                    • davidandrei
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                      #20
                      have you guys seen al haymon's standard contract? regardless of how good or bad the matches he puts on, the boxer is practically a slave from the moment he signs with haymon. he giving these boxers these big paydays with **** opponents because it adds at least 2 years to their contract every time. he has the ability, backed by the law, to use up these fighters and throw them away at will.

                      now if your scenario is this:
                      al haymon will be the new big show and all relevant fighters will be fighting in his league or whatever. he got them all on his advisor contract and he force the best to fight the best every single fight, forget the tuneups, not to mention he can pay them ANYTHING, the big paydays are needed only to extend the contract. so he has his big league of fighters always fighting the best, he using fighters best prime years and then move on to the next one and hes paying them minimum wage because he LEGALLY CAN. thats the most blatant butt**** in boxing i can think of. but ok sure, i will give you that as fans, as long as we dont care about the boxers, then we are getting the good ****, good entertainment, good fights, and hopefully we can get all this on abc, fox, cbs , nbc or whatever.

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