A question that CANNOT be answered by fanboys

[LouIE G]

yea im gonna have to disagree with you. Zab and guerrero were never elite fighters.

Thats as close as i can get to elite fighters, its not pacquaio, but at least zab and robert were better fighters then margacheato.... they were ranked top 5 in their division before floyd fought them, and zab was he undisputed champ, so if that didnt make him elite despite the baldo fight then idk..

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Really? Pac weight drained him, floyd never fought him at 147 lbs, the trout loss is basic styles makes fights. Why would cotto try and box a taller, rangier boxer is beyond me and got outboxed. "bull" cotto would walk throught him throwing those killer left hooks to the body, something he rarely used in his fight vs trout. care to try again?

So his loss to Manny doesn't count because it was 2 lbs below 147, and his loss to Floyd doesn't count because it was over 147 (even though Cotto is bigger than Floyd), and Trout didn't count because some gibberish about killer hooks?

Is there something magical that happens when Cotto weighs exactly 147 lbs? Does he un-suck or something?

[bigjavi973]

My guess is Floyd calling himself TBE isn't related to just his run at ww. while at ww, he went up to 154 3 times to beat the #1 JMW at the time, in addition to beating Mosley when he was the consensus #1 ww, even though he wasn't prime.

The prime ww's at the time-pwill, margs-were never elite. The only prime, elite ww was manny, who refused the fight at the time.

thank you for your obvious floydboytoy answer. Now, answer the questions without ands ifs or buts

[LouIE G]

Really? Pac weight drained him, floyd never fought him at 147 lbs, the trout loss is basic styles makes fights. Why would cotto try and box a taller, rangier boxer is beyond me and got outboxed. "bull" cotto would walk throught him throwing those killer left hooks to the body, something he rarely used in his fight vs trout. care to try again?

I gave you a perfectly logical reason as to why floyd did not fight cotto at 147 pounds in 08, and you agreed with me, so plz stop bringing that up.

[billeau2]

yea im gonna have to disagree with you. Zab and guerrero were never elite fighters.

True. Judah always had the potential to be elite and Guerrero is solid but hardly elite.

That is ideed one big Rican in your avi! thats a llllllooooooooota El sol and pastelles!!!!

[bigjavi973]

So his loss to Manny doesn't count because it was 2 lbs below 147, and his loss to Floyd doesn't count because it was over 147 (even though Cotto is bigger than Floyd), and Trout didn't count because some gibberish about killer hooks?

Is there something magical that happens when Cotto weighs exactly 147 lbs? Does he un-suck or something?

It seems that you never heard of this, but just incase:

STYLES MAKES FIGHTS

and yes being weight drained when you are already just making the weight limit by a pound or less does have a negative affect on your perfomance.

Damn casuals

[bigjavi973]

Thats as close as i can get to elite fighters, its not pacquaio, but at least zab and robert were better fighters then margacheato.... they were ranked top 5 in their division before floyd fought them, and zab was he undisputed champ, so if that didnt make him elite despite the baldo fight then idk..

I can respect your opinion. But an elite fighter would not lose to baldomir at that time.

[HanzGruber]

You don't have to beat someone solely in their prime for it to be a good win. Kov just beat a 50 yr old and people have him top 5 pfp lol. Hatton was in top 10 pfp so was Mosley so was cotto

[LouIE G]

I can respect your opinion. But an elite fighter would not lose to baldomir at that time.

Boxers having bad nights in the ring is not totally unheard of javi....

[shade darkar]

Thats as close as i can get to elite fighters, its not pacquaio, but at least zab and robert were better fighters then margacheato.... they were ranked top 5 in their division before floyd fought them, and zab was he undisputed champ, so if that didnt make him elite despite the baldo fight then idk..

guerrero better than margarito?